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Charges filed against Baxter and Avir


I have filed criminal charges in Austria against Baxter and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology for producing and distributing contaminated bird flu vaccine material this winter, alleging that this was a deliberate act to cause a pandemic, and also to profit from that pandemic.

Avir and Baxter AG are headquartered inside the Vienna City limits, where I live, and so fall within the jurisdiction of the Vienna City Prosecutor.

In the paperwork I filed with the Vienna City Courthouse on Wednesday, April 8th, 2009, after consulting lawyers, I present evidence  of intent to cause harm by Baxter and Avir, citing, among other things, the fact that Baxter uses Biosafety Level 3 regulations to prevent just such a contamination of ordinary flu with the bird flu virus.

Also, I suggest that there are reasonable grounds for believing that Baxter is part of a secret bioweapons programme and that there are plans to release weaponised bird flu on the world’s population soon.

Furthermore, I present evidence to support the notion that Baxter is a smaller entity operating within a bigger aggregate of entities that belong to an international organised crime group, which I maintain can be identified with the group known informally as “The Illuminati”.

I allege there is evidence the US “Illuminati”-controlled government plans to release the bird flu on the US population in the near future, citing bird flu drills, FEMA camps, mass graves among other facts.

Flowing from their obligations as a signatory to the UN Convention for the Punishment and Prevention of Genocide, I argue that Austrian courts are bound by law to prosecute any individuals or organisations when there is reasonable proof that they are involved in planning any genocide, including US officials.

In an era of global crime organisations, I argue it is more necessary than ever that Austrian courts leverage international laws to protect the Austrian people as well as people all around the world against the bird flu and other threats, posed in particular by the “Illuminati” global racketeering influenced organised crime syndicate.

As evidence for Baxter’s participation in a secret, black international bioweapons programme, I cite reports that the “bird flu” virus was resurrected by US bioweapons scientists from the Spanish Flu virus in 1996 and also note that Baxter has patented a highly pathogenic bird flu virus mutation, something difficult to account for if Baxter is not doing research into weaponised bird flu strains.

As evidence that Baxter deliberately manufactured and distributed the contaminated material, I note the way the Biosecurity Level 3 regulations were systematically subverted at Baxter’s facilities in Orth an der Donau.

I also note the reports in the media that the contaminated material was sent to 16 laboratories with a false or incorrect llabel as evidence of intent to deceive staff in outside laboratories into thinking they were handling relatively harmless material and into taking fewer precautions, so increasing their risk of being infected by the bird flu and acting as pandemic bird flu carriers into the general population.

I argue the fact that at least 36 to 37 laboratory staff were treated preventatively for bird flu and normal flu in hospital underlines the danger that they could have been infected with the bird flu, and could have sparked a pandemic.

In addition, I present arguments for classifying Baxter’s production facilities for the vaccination material for the bird flu — specifically the use of 1,200 liter bioreactors and vero cell technology — as a dual biological weapons programme. This is because it would allow a huge amount of contaminated vaccine material to be produced rapidly if any live bird flu virus material ever got into the bioreactor in the first place.

I argue that the production and distribution of contaminated bird flu material by Baxter to 16 labs this winter showed that every safety control failed – and that another such a systematic “safeguards” failure cannot be ruled out again and nor can it be ruled out that contaminated material ends up in  1,200 liter bioreactors. I cite opinions that the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918-1919 was spread by contaminated vaccines.

I contend that a motive for Baxter for sparking the pandemic is profit.

In 2006, Baxter sealed a contract with the Austrian Health Ministry to supply 16 million doses of bird flu vaccines in the event of a “pandemic”. This action fits the pattern of deriving an income from illegal activities which is typical of an organised crime racket.

[Note: The Austrian Health Minister who signed the deal with Baxter in 2006 is Maria Rauch-Kallat, the wife of Alfons Mensdorff-Pouilly, who was released from jail in Austria on April 3rd, 2009, after being held in custody for five weeks in connection with bribery and money-laundering involving British weapons maker BAE systems.]

I also allege that the Austrian and international authorities are involved in a cover up.

As evidence for the cover up, I cite the fact that no action has been taken by the authorities. Little to no information has been released to the public.

While none of the political parties has made a statement, a few members of parliament apparently acting on their own tabled questions to the Austrian Health Minister on March 20th to obtain information.

Questions tabled include: “Can a threat to the Austrian people be ruled out?” “What steps have been taken to stop a repeat?”

In my charges, I argue that the people of Austria have a right to be fully informed about the incident and any investigation.

I suggest the notion that Austria has a “state within a state” or a “secret army” , a group of agents who act on the orders of Illuminati and who have annexed key positions in Austrian government and authorities, and who provide cover that allows Baxter and Avir to operate more or less outside the law.

I allege that persons in charge of the Austrian mainstream media are part of the cover up of this crime syndicate. The media in gross dereliction of its duty as the fourth estate to call organisations to account has been pretty much silent about the incident here in Austria.

Because so few Austrians have heard about the way Baxter produced and sent out the pandemic material this winter, they will be more willing to allow themselves and also their children to be injected with a vaccine supplied by that same company Baxter in the event of a pandemic, I argue. The silence of the media is, therefore, I contend a necessary element in carrying out this crime.

Should millions of Austrians and Europeans die as a result of the bird flu pandemic and/or contaminated vaccine material, their homes, property, savings, farms, companies and other assets could fall to the state authorities controlled by organised crime, and so could be transferred into private hands with ease.

I argue there is a robbery motive to the murder of millions of people throughout the world by use of  weaponised bird flu. I present evidence that the “Illuminati” have planned the current global financial collapse to enrich themselves, and they are now using the relatively inexpensive and efficient weaponised bird flu as part of a pre meditated plan to eliminate huge numbers of their robbed victims before these can regroup and obtain retribution.

If the  international organised crime syndicate I designate as the ”Illuminati” manage to kill millions or billions of people by unleashing a pandemic bird flu, they are in a position to take control not only of personal assets of their victims but also of natural resources of entire countries, resources that are increasingly valuable at a time of global warming, I argue.

You can read the document I submitted to the prosecutor in German below. Some of the quotes are in English.  I’ll  post up the English translation as soon as it’s ready.

I would appreciate any information, articles or tips relevant to the bird flu case, so that I can submit these to the  prosecutor to reinforce the case.

As for the next step, I was told my file would be assigned a case number and allocated to a state prosecutor who will review the information and, if there is enough evidence of violations of laws,  authorise criminal charges to be brought against Baxter and Avir.

If you want to contribute or help out, contact me, Jane, at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

I  would like to bring more such cases, also in other European countries, in a bid to reign in the crime spree.

Any donations to defray costs are welcome.

 



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matt 2009-08-24 20:42:11

so what can we do to help people not spread it
Laraine Abbey RN, CNS 2009-08-26 00:56:31

I love what you are doing. I just donated some funds and am working to marshal additional forces to follow your lead.

Thank-you ever so much for your efforts.
Anonymous 2009-11-08 21:41:11

Awwwww, too bad you just wasted your hard earned money!
tech 2009-08-31 08:54:42

Hi Jane!

If there werea picture in a dictionary for "brave", you would be on it!

What can we in sweden do?? PLZ respond to my email! thnx!!!
Bernie 2009-09-02 05:33:56

well I have to say that as far as I am aware, we in the UK have heard nothing about any of this! I only discovered the info thorugh a US Scrapbooking site! I've just sat and done a google search to try and find a report on this by the BBC, just in case I'd missed this in the news, and nothing has appeared yet. When our country is so concerned about swine flu, it seems odd that this would not be reported (as our media usually delights in reporting things that make the Government worried!!) - unless, as you say, the media has agreed to help out here for some reason. Very odd.
I look forward to seeing what happens with this.
Peter Neisman 2009-09-02 16:58:26

The word is spreading about Jane's court case-and people are not drinking the kool aid from drug companies. This Swine Vaccine contains: aborted fetus tissues, diseased monkey tissue, aluminum, mercury and 2 dangerous ingredients-who would give this to a pregnant mother? Do we want more deformed babies as happened in the 60's with thalidomide. (google it and find out the horrors of untested drugs in vaccines). Find out the truth-do your own research- do not take this vaccine-it is going to kill your immune system and your baby.
Thats What We Need
Denis 2009-09-03 02:39:26

Congratulations and thank you for doing something that I believe can have some effect. If more people fill criminal charges against this people it may reach the public opinion we need to stop them. But what we see is that the media never talk about charges against the Pharma Corps so much of the work have to be done by us spreading the word and showing the facts to our family, friends, community etc
keith 2009-09-04 03:15:50

i have so much respect for what you have uncovered but you do know you can not defeat the people you are going after ! these people will stop at nothing, and if you look at what happens to other people who threaten the illuminati all i can do is wish you the best of luck !! we have not had no media coverage of this in the UK but that does not surprise me, after all look who runs them ;o)i also have a feeling if you did take these bastards to court and won i dont think the media would mention it. we have no power and it does not matter how many people know because in this day and age the average person just does not seem to care. good luck with your case but i feel you are wasting your time but i hope im wrong.
Support Jane
Peter Neisman 2009-09-04 03:28:12

We cannot and will not give up -fighting for just causes-because once we do-we could not live with ourselves. I am a cancer survivor, and I got cancer because of a drug. So you know how I feel about drug companies now.

The very fact that this SF vaccine is not tested -tells you something. This and other vaccines are not tested for causing cancer -now you know why because they do.
The drug co's will not test it because they know the results already. You mean to tell me that the US and European Drug Companies own the world? Ha. That will be the day. If they continue persuing this course-one day there will be a bomb in each of the headquarters of the drug companies - aimed at the CEO offices. I know this will happen one day and I pray for it. These people will be destroyed, this is not a threat -but as they took out Saddam Hussein...they can take out these barbaric animals.

Not everyone is believing that the SF vaccine is harmless, I am doing my part on my blog-sounding the alarms and people are listening. We don't all follow the leaders- some of us have backbones.







Mrs.
Jane Sizemore 2009-09-07 13:13:52

You assholes posted this website all over the front of my store on little sticky notes.

Fuck you.


web master ww.theflucase.com
Johan Niklasson 2009-09-08 05:38:44

Dear Jane Sizemore

I am sorry to hear that your store has been vandalized. Could you please send us pictures if this incident?

In no way do we encourage the destruction or vandalism of private or government property. This must have been done by someone with poor judgment and I do apologize.

To everyone who want to make this site more visible: please take care and show respect. Don't get carried away and stay friends with people as much as possible.

Best Regards
Johan Niklasson

keith 2009-09-07 15:17:19

hot water and a strong arm should do the job ;o)
post it..
tech 2009-09-08 10:58:27

"Postits" people!! just write the adess to the webpage and post it on a door, bus, the seat in front of you.
Leaves no marks and if anyone messes around with you, just take it down, and put it up some where else.. Problem solved.
MVH Peter STHLM.
we are all together with you
hans 2009-09-28 20:53:39

hello, i am working with many friends in germany and around all europe to open the eys of pepoles on this subject, please send to me all your new news on my adresse email: againsth1n1@hotmail.com
so i will send it after for evry body in europe.

with greeting.

Hans
we are all with you jean
hans 2009-09-29 16:25:32

hello, please show this for evrybody:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2Oi6hPWqBd9ER1aSfL

kisses

hans
TEMOIGNAGE DES INFERMIERES
HANS 2009-09-29 19:19:23

e suis infirmière et je refuse de me faire vacciner contre le virus de la grippe H1N1. En l’absence de connaissance sur les effets secondaires de ce vaccin, je refuse de servir de "cobaye".

Comment expliquer la réticence de nos confrères et consœurs britanniques et asiatiques ? Apparemment, il n’est pas de toute innocuité et je me sentirai responsable d’avoir injecté un produit qui provoquera un grave syndrome de Guillain Barré. J’ai l’impression de "re"vivre un épisode du sang contaminé ou des hormones de croissance. En résumé, je n’ai pas envi de servir de faire valoir au profit de labos contre la santé de nos concitoyens.

Je souhaite refuser la vaccination. C’est le cas de plusieurs infirmières puéricultrices de mon service, mais auront-nous le choix ?

Je vous informe que je refuserai le vaccin H1N1. De même, je prépare un courrier au collège de mes enfants les informant que quelque soit le caractère "massif et obligatoire" de cette campagne de vaccination, j’y oppose mon autorité parentale et que je refuse que mes enfants soient vaccinés. J’en assumerai les conséquences au regard de la loi. Des fois, la stupidité des décisions politiques nous placent dans l’illégalité, mais l’important n’est-il pas d’être en paix avec sa conscience ?

Je ne souhaite pas me faire vacciner contre la grippe A bien que professionnelle réquisitionnable puisque IDE à l’EN dans un lycée.

Bonjour, je suis infirmière en pedo psy mais je ne souhaite pas comme nombre de mes collègues me faire vacciner.la direction de l’hôpital peut elle nous y contraindre ?

Refus +++ pour moi infirmier ainsi que pour ma femme infirmière et enceinte qui plus est !

Pour ma part, je n’ai pas été contaminée par le " virus " de la peur. Je ne me ferai pas vacciner. Personne n’oblige les gens à avaler n’importe quoi ( au propre et au figuré ) !

Je pense refuser la vaccination mais dans l’IFSI où je travaille l’information circule comme quoi la vaccination serait obligatoire pour tous les professionnels de la santé ! Allons-nous vraiment avoir le choix ?

Infirmière en Bloc Opératoire, je pense refuser le vaccin car j’aurai des contacts avec des patients non contaminés. Si je suis atteinte, je serai en arrêt de travail. Envers ma famille (parents de + 70 ans et enfants), je ne conseillerai pas le vaccin.
TEMOIGNAGE DES INFERMIERES
HANS 2009-09-29 19:21:25

Infirmier Anesthésiste, je refuse la vaccination. Le bénéfice risque est à des années lumière de ce qui est habituellement toléré pour l’obtention des AMM.

Je compte refuser la vaccination. Pour information, je suis puéricultrice, directrice de structure petite enfance.

Cadre infirmier, je ne me suis jamais fait vacciner contre la grippe saisonnière et ne souhaite pas me faire vacciner contre H1N1, estimant que le rapport bénéfice/risque n’est pas clair.

Je ne souhaite pas me faire vacciner contre la grippe H1N1 et je le refuserai ainsi que pour mes deux enfants. Je suis contre la vaccination H1N1 car je pense que nous avons aucun recul sur ce vaccin par contre nous sommes suffisamment informés sur les symptômes de cette grippe. Certes il y a des décès liés à cette pathologie mais dans des contextes particuliers avec un état général très affaibli. Pour moi, si atteinte de la grippe H1N1, il suffit de rester chez soi avec un éventuel traitement comme la simple grippe.

Je refuserai le vaccin. De toute façon, la rapidité d’élaboration de ce vaccin (voir à ce sujet la procédure légale), et les recommandations OMS n’incitent pas à une vaccination tous azimuts. D’autre part, si cette grippe guérit en une semaine sans traitement, pourquoi la traiter à la massue ???

Infirmière libérale, c’est une certitude : je ne ferai pas le vaccin H1N1. J’en informe le plus largement possible mes patients et amis. Je revendique mon droit à la désobéissance civique si je suis réquisitionnée pour des centres de vaccinations de masse.

IDE en maison de retraite et vacataire, tous services confondus, à l’hôpital local, j’ai choisi de ne PAS me faire vacciner par le vaccin H1N1.

Je ne me ferais pas vacciner contre le virus H1/N1. Je ne suis pas une personne à risque et je préfère être couchée 5 jours !!! Je suis IDE dans une maison d’enfants.

Je ne pense pas me faire vacciner contre H1N1 (Adjuvants,etc...) Pourquoi l’ensemble de la population, à plus forte raison LES PROFESSIONNELS DE SANTE, n’auraient-ils pas "droit" , eux aussi, au même vaccin que les femmes enceintes, immunodéprimé : un vaccin qui soit plus sécurisé ???

Je suis enceinte de 6 mois, et justement je n’ai pas envie de faire ce vaccin, car on n’a pas de recul et je ne voudrais pas faire du mal à mon bébé. D’autant plus que tout vaccin était interdit aux femmes enceintes et nourrisson. Mais comme par hasard, le vaccin contre la grippe A est fortement recommandé à ces derniers.

Je ne souhaite pas me faire vacciner contre le virus de la grippe A etant donne l’incertitude des effets secondaires (je ne suis pas un cobaye de labo) mais je me vaccine tous les ans contre la grippe saisonniere.

Nous savons que la grippe H 1N1 est très contagieuse mais son degré de virulence par rapport à la grippe saisonnière est sans nul doute infime et moins meurtrier. Les précautions à prendre devant un patient grippé sont bien sur nécessaires mais nous sommes formés à cette éventualité. Nous côtoyons, la tuberculose, les angines, divers bactéries hautement plus contagieuses, manuportées, aéroportées, divers parasites (poux, gale, puces….), divers virus saisonniers…. Nous savons nous protéger ! Vacciner les personnels avec un vaccin expérimental, testé sans aucun recul d’effets indésirables possibles reste une problématique. Peu de transparence, peu d’information….. Personnellement, je ne me ferai pas vacciner contre la grippe A , et n’inciterai personne à le faire.
le labo Baxter ( criminel)obligé de s'
HANS 2009-09-30 07:23:59

Dans la série grippe A et petites contrariétés, les laboratoires pharmaceutiques se retrouvent sur le banc des soupçonnés. Et un en particulier: Baxter. Ce labo alimente une rumeur sur Internet: il comploterait pour éliminer les humains en surnombre avec ses vaccins. En réalité, ces accusations ne tiennent absolument pas la route: les vaccins de Baxter sont inoffensifs. Mais en revanche, ils coûtent très cher.

Sur les 90 millions de doses commandées par la France, la compagnie Baxter doit fournir quelques milliers de vaccins contre la grippe A... Le nom du laboratoire a été soufflé à la dernière minute le 27 août, lors de la grande conférence de presse des sept mercenaires, pardon des sept ministres envoyés au front pour combattre la pandémie ennemie, à savoir Roselyne Bachelot-Narquin, notre mère soignante à tous et Brice Hortefeux, Xavier Darcos, Luc Chatel, Marie Luce Penchard, Nadine Morano et Norra Berra.

Depuis l’annonce, des rumeurs circulent sur la toile sur ce grand industriel du médicament qui donnent la chair de poule. Baxter participerait à un complot bioterroriste mondial visant à éliminer les humains en surnombre… La compagnie aurait même déjà contaminé son vaccin avec le virus très dangereux de la grippe aviaire et sous la pression de quelques courageux journalistes aurait reconnu s’être accidentellement mélangé les pipettes. En fait, c’est une histoire qui date de février dernier, donc d’avant Mexico et ce n’était pas des vaccins cocos, mais du « matériel viral », autrement dit des virus qui avaient été livrés sous surveillance à une autre société pour qu’elle puisse développer son propre vaccin. Las, dans les lots expédiés, les blouses blanches ont eu la mauvaise surprise de trouver du H5N1. Une regrettable erreur, mais Baxter a battu sa coulpe et pris des mesures pour qu’elle ne puisse plus se reproduire.

Le gouvernement de la santé autrichien a méticuleusement vérifié les paillasses avant de donner le feu vert pour la production des vaccins sur des cellules zéro de singes alors que les firmes concurrentes cultivent leur virus dans des œufs… Au niveau des tests cliniques des maquettes de vaccins, les seuls effets indésirables notés seraient des maux de dents et une grosse fatigue. C’est probablement mieux qu’une grosse fièvre, des courbatures et des complications pulmonaires, mais c’est plus cher.
interesting
ollie 2009-09-30 09:37:17

interesting that posts which do no comply with the idea of this website are being deleted. very objective your site... what a farce..... anyway i didn't expect anything else.... have fun conspiracy people
web master www.theflucase.com
Johan Niklasson 2009-09-30 14:06:01

Dear ollie

I have not erased a single post that was not obviously spam, like ads for Rolex watches or Gold or other similar "comments". I allow critical comments as you clearly can see on many articles. I am for free speech and since I have allowed comments on the site, also "critical" ones are allowed. Ads, spam or other inappropriate comments are removed. Luckily, they are very few.

Best Regards
Johan Niklasson

CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST
stéphanie 2009-09-30 09:50:58


BAXTER INTERNATIONAL AND
AVIR GREEN HILL BIOTECHNOLOGY AG,
FOR DEVELOPING, MANUFACTURING, DISSEMINATING, AND RELEASING A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION
ON AUSTRIAN SOIL BETWEEN DECEMBER 2008 AND FEBRUARY 2009
WITH THE INTENTION OF CAUSING A GLOBAL BIRD FLU PANDEMIC VIRUS AND OF INTENDING TO PROFIT FROM THAT SAME PANDEMIC
IN AN ACT THAT VIOLATES LAWS ON INTERNATIONAL ORGANISED CRIME AND GENOCIDE.

Carl Zeelie 2009-09-30 17:33:25

how does this impact Africa..if at all?
Carl Zeelie 2009-09-30 17:39:11

Your hotmaol and gmail adresses does not work?
Australia really down under
P V 2009-10-02 05:25:58

Well, they have started the mass vaccinations in Australia. Unfortunately the Australian govt. is spineless when it comes to standing on its own two feet. We always follow the US and UK. I shudder to think of the outcomes. 5 million vials of the sf vaccines have landed on the market with more to come. I hope that the end results are not what we expect. We are doing everything here to spread the word DON'T DO IT.
if there are any stores please send to my email finfree116@gmail.com.
P V 2009-10-02 05:27:07

that should be if there are any stories coming out please email me on finfree116@gmail.com. thank you.
Beware of FEAR as a direct threat
Claud 2009-10-02 09:28:36

Dear Jane and Johan,
Thank you for your amazing courage and passionate care for all.

I suggest that the conspirers are taking us for a herd of brainless animals (document in "the Pale horse"), and that is precisely why they do not have any troubled conscience about eliminating the majorit of us...

I personally know a politician who talks (in private) whith an immense despise for the public and is convinced that he and his fellow politicians are the true elite governing a sad pack of pigs only interested in cheap fun,sex and food when "they"(the "elite") have to do all the responsible job for them.

Therefore, these people are absolutey convinced that the majority of "the public" is a plague for Humanity.They have therefore no compassion whatsoever for their misery, either present or to come.

However, they also know that a minority of us is educated enough and brave enough to alert the others on facts that we could dig out of the blurry ongoing propaganda by simply joining the dots.

That is why I suggest the idea of them having put in place a "plan B" or even a "plan C" in case of whistle blowers failing their initial depopulation plan.

Let us not forget that social psychology is a very important part of the cursus in every top army headquarters and every big corporation strategy.

I must admit that I had suspiscion that even your intervention could have been instrumentalized by these malthusian "elite", in order to drive us away from the real plan,
which could be to poison people with the seasonal flu vaccine, or a contamination of tap water, or emission of lethal electromagnetic fields through mobile phone antennas, or ...or anything else that could be far more discrete than this gross "pandemic" hoax.
It could then focus the wistle-blowing into the wrong direction, leaving the real war field free of obstacles.

But at the end of the day, what I suspect the most they are doing is to SPREAD FEAR AS A WEAPON. Please consider this seriously.
If you ever heard of German New Medicine which was and still is being fiercely suppressed by all governments influenced by certain very powerful groups througout the world, you will know what I mean:
Fear ALONE kills.
How?
Here are the necessary conditions for fear to threaten your life through the RESPIRATORY SYSTEM (what a coincidence!):
-It has to threaten your very life or survival (you hear through every media at each time of day how lethal the "new flu strain" is GOING TO be).
-It has to come from a source that takes you by surprise, off gard, i.e. from a source you would not suspect at all (you would not suspect the World HEALTH Organisation to harm you, would you?).
-It has to be a threat that you cannot objectively discuss with others in order to let the pressure out of your brain, i.e. a threat you would be called a stupid "conspirationist fool" to discuss or reveal (you'd have all the industry people,all the conventional health care people, all the media people, all the "normal"thinking people against you, and possibly even all of your family who have always seen you as a black sheep for your free thinking).

These conditions are WELL KNOWN and USED by many of those who suppressed all the revolutionary information about illnesses discoverd 28 years ago and which, nevertheless has managed to relentlessly spread all around the globe.

It is capital to understand that WAR is now entirely based on PSYCHOLOGY.

With such a weapon, you can get anywhere, especially because most people are "asleep" or slumbering even though the recent so called "financial crisis" has contributed in their awakening about the main tool used to enslave them : CONFIDENCE.

You used to trust your banker, you used to trust your doctor, you used to trust your government. Now you have to realize that they were all corrupt.

This realization may be too painful to bear for many of us, used to live with the reassuring thought that we were being looked after properly by "intelligent", educated people we both paid and elected. Alas, that was only a dream.

I suggest we now all wake up and consider ourselves alone with our sole own individual power in hand.Each of us alone, but all together as a global network of free thinkers, we can defeat any plan to harm us collectively.

If tomorrow, as one can fear, the information on Internet is suppressed, let us all remember that: we are not alone. We are many! And we are a fast growing community of thought!

Also, I suggest that we join the dots on the large picture and see the links beteween the FEAR spread by the world Bankers over everyone of us.
Fear on our basic needs for SURVIVAL (shelter, food, health, by global job destructions).I see that offensive as a prime plan for mass population reduction.

Please have a look on the 5 biological laws revealed by Dr.Med. Ryke Geerd Hamer (German New Medicine)and understand how FEAR can actually and physically make you ill and kill you.

Millions of people around the world know these natural laws and a certain well spread out, powerful group of religious fundamentalists even uses them by special religious decrete (for themselves but not for anyone else) for their own safe Medicine.
Needless to note that this group happens to control the majority of the worlds's banking system (including of course the biggest shares in global corporations among which the most powerful, the Chemical-Pharmaceuticals).

I am not going to mention them more precisely for a good reason: they love being seen as perpetual victims and have developed a cunning, systematic strategy of accusing their accusers on religious-ethnical grounds, amusing the opinion while they are committing their atrocious, lucrative business as usual.
(Once victims, forever victims...How could these poor victims harm anyone today?)It is the sad story of systems as you may have read the demonstration of in the small but brillant book by George Orwell "Animal Farm".
I use this title to call the Parmaceuticals treating us like guinea pigs good enough to be used and killed:"animal pharm".

Sorry that I wrote such a long mail, but I find these matters crucial to realize.
Please do not fear!
With knowledge and clear-minded intentions, we are much stronger than we/they think.

Salut! (=good health in Spanish)
danny brown 2009-10-03 22:40:23

You are correct. We are in their thrall
and we are gathering information at a
growing rate.
Don't be afraid to call them by name:
Zionists.
There is nothing "ethnic" or "victimized"
about them. They hide behind the misfortunes of millions of Jews while
claiming to represent the hope and
salvation of the Jewish people.
They do not. Don't take it from me;
follow the links at www.nkusa.org/
and www.jewsagainstzionism.com/.
Millions of our Jewish brothers are
simply muzzled as the rest of us have been and as confused as the rest of
us are.
I was absolutely appalled to discover
the "benevolent" organization called
the OSCE is pushing incremental legislation into the parliaments,
Congresses, etc., of 57 countries to
equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism,
and requiring "member" countries to
file reports of same with their office.
There are bills pending in the USA as we speak. See http://tandis.odihr.pl/
for a starting point on a very dismal
journey into the legitimization of
the New World Order.
Follow the links, particularly the
"Key Issues" tab on top, where you
will find the item "Holocaust Remembrance" as a choice, as well as
Hate Crime, Anti-Semitism, etc.
Read between the lines at the OSCE site.
Let he that hath wisdom, read and understand.
-Thanks,
-db

Courrier adressé au Parquet de Nice par SOS Justic
HANS 2009-10-02 17:10:48

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20183173/Courrier-adresse-au-Parquet-de-Nice -par-SOS-Justice-Le-23092009-sur-plainte-deposee-le-22-aout-2009-aux-U SA-par-le-Dr-Leonard-G-Horowitz-
very inmportent to see
HANS 2009-10-04 17:05:44

http://www.direct8.fr/video/bien-etre-15-09-09/
fin des temps
wallace59 2009-10-05 13:35:30

La menace est réelle, les gouvernements sont tous à la solde des illuminés et des franc-maçons. sarkozy, merkel, obama, ce sont des pourris. pourquoi le désordre règne partout dans le monde, cherchez les vraies causes. c'est la lutte entre Dieu et le diable, ça fait 2000 ans que ça dure. mais les portes de l'enfer ne prévaudront pas contre L'Eglise du Christ.
pandémie
wallace59 2009-10-05 13:45:18

je tiens à féliciter jane burgermeister pour son courage et merci à vous johan niklasson pour ce site qui nous permet de nous exprimer librement. quant à la campagne de vaccination, c'est un génocide masqué, parce que les 1éres personnes visées sont les femmes enceintes et les personnes souffrant de maladies cardio-vasculaires. les franc-maçons c'est pire que l'extermination sous les nazis et les communistes car ils le font de façon sournoise, détournée. ils sont en train de mettre en place le nouvel ordre mondial et le contrôle total de la population par l'injection d'une puce sous la peau. c'est la prophétie de l'apocalypse qui se réalise, "personne ne pourra acheter ni vendre sans porter la marque de la bête ou le nombre de son nom."
alors ce qu'il faut faire c'est prier le rosaire tous les jours.
que Dieu vous bénisse.
don't believe everything!!!
cristi popescu 2009-10-07 05:55:35

be more inquisitive!
don not believe everything anyone tells you.
make up your own mind.
do some research.
think about it...

Anonymous 2009-10-07 08:23:11

Quote:
...FOR DEVELOPING, MANUFACTURING, DISSEMINATING, AND RELEASING A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION..


OH MAN, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE BULLSHIT!!!
USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU OWN ONE!
Danny Brown 2009-10-07 14:31:17

They question isn't if I'm using my brain.
The question is, are they using yours?
-pd

dasf 2009-10-07 22:04:10

Damn you're nuts!
Aaron 2009-10-07 22:07:49

I took the vaccine 6 months ago and I'm not dying! How the hell you explain such?!

I can, but that implies calling you stupid.
danny brown 2009-10-08 04:22:43

Sorry, friend. You did not take it six months ago. It was not available six months ago. You may have taken a "seasonal flu" shot- NOT the same thing.
Or, you're as demented as I am :-)
-dbrown

take it easy folks
pv 2009-10-07 23:03:30

The Swine Flu Vaccine contains many chemcials one of which is mercury. Mercury is more toxic than lead. There are no safe levels. If you look on the MIMs reference for SWINE flu for doctors they say rare side effects could be neurological conditions etc, amongst other things. Not all people may be affected. They don't know yet. The problem with any new vaccine that has not been correctly tested is unknown side effects. If you are happy to have a chemical cocktail injected directly into your bloodstream then that is fine. The human body is supposed to receive any chemicals via the skin or mouth which will enable to liver to detox. The injection goes directly into the bloodstream so the body has no way to defend itself against chemicals that may cause harm. Do the research. The evidence is mounting. This vaccine should be by choice only.

You need to research, research, research. It is everyones democratic right to choose. If you trust your government or the pharmaceutical companies then good for you. If history is anything to go by then you are too trusting.

For what its worth.
re: take it easy folks
danny brown 2009-10-08 04:28:19

PV isn't demented. Thank goodness.
-dbrown

Sphynx
Natalia 2009-10-08 13:55:55

Bravo Jane!
I love you for that! God bless you! It is hope for humanity that brave individuals like you exist. My mother got 2 years in preason because she stod that she believed in.
Forced vaccine...
Max 2009-10-08 17:20:30

first, bravo to both of you (Jane and Johan)!!!

If I'm forced to take it (the vaccine), then it will be over my dead body. If I'm free to take it, then I'll think about it (and won't probably take it anyway).

It sure looks fishy in so many ways its just unbelievable.

No matter what it is, the none sens is obvious and should be enough for all of us to question ourselves about all this and think twice before blindly accepting this.

To the people: Stay optimistic! There is not only bad people out there.

Il y'a encore de l'espoir...

Max
Anonymous 2009-10-09 06:17:47

Quote:
The Swine Flu Vaccine contains many chemcials one of which is mercury.

THIS IS A LIE!!
THERE IS NO MERCURY IN BAXTER PRODUCTS!!
The swine-flu-vaccines "Focetria" (Novartis) and "Pandemrix"(GlaxoSmithKline)contains Thiomersal, wich isn't mercury as you know from your mercury-in-glass-thermometer, but a sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate.
In Baxters "Celvapan" Trometamol is used.
and i want to say it again:
this site is built up on lies and contains 99% BULLSHIT. SHAME ON YOU JANE (if you are existing) and FUCK YOURSELF!!!
:-)
Marie L 2009-10-09 13:21:09

Shareholder?
your nuts!
personintheknowuk 2009-10-09 13:31:56

I just want to say as someone who works very closely with the vaccines in the uk - you are NUTS.

Some of the things you claim to be in vaccines is just made up, i have seen the lists - Baxter vaccine doesnt contain anything and GlaxoSmithKline vaccine contains thermisal and squaline but there is NO evidence that either of these things are dangerous in the tiny levels tehre are - there is more murcury in a tin of tuna!!

There is no conspiricy we just want people to be safe from the harm the virus can do. the vaccine wont be forced on anyone - if you dont want it you dont have to - surely that is then a flaw in your 'conspiricy - lets wipe out the population' theory

love to know just how quickly this gets thrown out of court if you really have tried to file charges
please stop! you are causing all sorts of nutters to ask stupid questions to people who should be working hard to protect our nation from a harmful virus.
Arguments lacking
Marie L 2009-10-09 07:19:51

As usual, someone from the "inside" wants us to take the "damn vaccine". But where are the arguments? Thank god that "Baxter vaccine doesnt contain anything" but when I think about it, to inject vacuum?

As usual - where there are no arguments or facts, negative emotions and silly name calling take their place.
Anonymous 2009-10-26 19:37:19

QUOTE: "As usual, someone from the "inside" wants us to take the "damn vaccine"."

WOW you really sound like a nut case.
Reply:take it easy folks
Kathleen 2009-10-12 20:27:10

I know your correct as hyperstimulation of the immune system causes blood sluddging and strokes throughout the body and brain because the aproximatly 60,000 capillaries that feed oxygenated blood to the brain and all organs is completely cutoff (ischemia) by the white corpusels which are aprox. three times larger than the red blood cells which travel single file through the cappilaries! All Vaccines cause this to happen in a delayed and acute way. It can be measured and seen in the face and eyes! go to BrainguardMD.com for extensive medical proof!
Carl 2009-10-09 13:43:42

Regardless.....I cannot believe that this is a scam. My reasoning:
Credibility of originator, worldwide reports of items related to the action, the boldness of the govrnments involved, the alleged seriousness of the virus (when you can recover with bedrest and common cold flu medication (one of my friends daughter's had it...she is 5!)The insistence by the WHO that its a pandemic...when TB and AIDS kill more peolple PER DAY in South Africa than Swine flu had in its totality in some contries much larger than us, the fact that its focussed on first world countries....thats enough for now...people see the bigger picture: Of course they are going to make sure that what is used at present is acceptable....untill the shout has died down...and the....?
personintheknowuk 2009-10-09 13:48:22

by 'anything' i obviously meant anything percived to be harmful ie. thiomersal or squaline. I could provide a long list of reasons why its safe but you would say i am someone on the 'inside' therefore 'of course i would say that' so there is no point - i think you will notice there is no foul language or emotion used in my previous comments.
If you have sensible questions and are prepared to listen to reasonabel answers i suggest you contact the depatment of health, the Government, your local MP, a GP or anyone who is actually QUALIFIED to answer your question
Experiment
Marie L 2009-10-09 13:59:03

Get back to this thread when you have read the over 700 articles on this site showing you that there are good reasons to mistrust the ones who are QUALIFIED. Then we can have an interesting exchange of ideas and arguments.
dbrown 2009-10-09 15:30:03

From a coldly rational standpoint a very telling fact is being overlooked, to wit:

Mainstream Media is skimming over the surface of this issue. Given the scope of concern over this matter, the undeniable
level of street talk and Internet interest, the rallys, the public announcements of concerned health care workers,
the number of YouTube interviews on line, etc., it is clear that this issue
is of major public import. Certainly more volatile than a case of e-coli sickness from a tainted hamburger, which
would be reported nationwide for several days running...
Murdoch et al could hire as many of the best labs in the world as they might find to perform the most stringent testing available and issue a compelling
report on any vaccine, food, perfume,
drinking water supply, children's toy,
or the hair on your head.
They have done this before, when THEY thought it was interesting. They can certainly afford it.

Why have they NOT done this with the flu vaccine?
Figure it out, friends.
-dbrown
Wyvern 2009-10-10 08:56:38

Great Hoax, I don't know which is funnier, the site or the poor saps that believe it.

Thanks for the Laughs..

Wyvern
Anonymous 2009-10-26 19:39:03

Thank you, I agree...great laughs!
Mr
Glen 2009-10-16 11:25:22

You are wonderful and I wish you all the luck and support in the world. Australia too has been subject to this bizzare swine flu campaign and the government has acted just like the puppets they are. The other day my 12yo son brought home a newsletter urging all kids to get the vaccine even though the results proving is safety were not yet in. This is unprecedented!
Hofnerman 2009-10-16 23:17:08

The media and the WHO are making such a big stink about this H1N1. Its obvious to me that the they have gone way over board with all scare tactics. Whats really weird here is that 2 months before the WHO even considered or suggested there was to be any kind of pandemic threat, the Mexican government had all ready purchased the vaccine. Hmm? I have been doing extensive research on this H1N1 scare and have but one quote to offer that kind of somes it all up pretty good....."If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels
D 2009-10-20 07:11:18

Mexican Government didn't had the vaccine 2 months before the pandemic threat. You clearly don't know anything about Mexican Medical Service, which was NOT prepared for such a thing, you should see the chaos it is to get a vaccine right now, even if you are trying to BUY IT.
Hofnerman 2009-10-16 23:19:28

Jane Burgermeister, all the best. The world needs you. PLEASE BE SAFE
Danny Brown 2009-10-17 04:18:04

Today, Friday, 16 Oct. 2009,the New York State Supreme Court granted an injunction against mandatory inoculation of health care workers.
Several hundred nurses, doctors, medics, etc., had assembled outside the courthouse
demanding relief.
The injunction is temporary, but it is a step forward.
-dbrown

re:
Antecedents of The Golden Man 2009-10-17 22:01:25

Please leave religio-politico hate claims out of what is really going on: There is a financial elite that got sometimes are clever, other times are not. What bands them together is not religion or race, but simply obscene amounts of money. They equate this to the rights of rulership and become drunk with the effusive vapors of elitist entitlement. Sadly for them, they too are just as much human as each one of us, bound by the same physical laws, vulnerable to the same poisons they toy with. A grave mistake, which will not occur to them until they mistakenly succeed at their Georgia Guidestones insanity, in which the world is depopulated, leaving the world in a backwards caveman like state again. Those who act with intense greed are not civilized or evolved, nor fit to be rules of this world.


danny brown wrote:
You are correct. We are in their thrall
and we are gathering information at a
growing rate.
Don't be afraid to call them by name:
Zionists.
There is nothing "ethnic" or "victimized"
about them. They hide behind the misfortunes of millions of Jews while
claiming to represent the hope and
salvation of the Jewish people.
They do not. Don't take it from me;
follow the links at www.nkusa.org/
and www.jewsagainstzionism.com/.
Millions of our Jewish brothers are
simply muzzled as the rest of us have been and as confused as the rest of
us are.
I was absolutely appalled to discover
the "benevolent" organization called
the OSCE is pushing incremental legislation into the parliaments,
Congresses, etc., of 57 countries to
equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism,
and requiring "member" countries to
file reports of same with their office.
There are bills pending in the USA as we speak. See http://tandis.odihr.pl/
for a starting point on a very dismal
journey into the legitimization of
the New World Order.
Follow the links, particularly the
"Key Issues" tab on top, where you
will find the item "Holocaust Remembrance" as a choice, as well as
Hate Crime, Anti-Semitism, etc.
Read between the lines at the OSCE site.
Let he that hath wisdom, read and understand.
-Thanks,
-db
danny brown wrote:
You are correct. We are in their thrall
and we are gathering information at a
growing rate.
Don't be afraid to call them by name:
Zionists.
There is nothing "ethnic" or "victimized"
about them. They hide behind the misfortunes of millions of Jews while
claiming to represent the hope and
salvation of the Jewish people.
They do not. Don't take it from me;
follow the links at www.nkusa.org/
and www.jewsagainstzionism.com/.
Millions of our Jewish brothers are
simply muzzled as the rest of us have been and as confused as the rest of
us are.
I was absolutely appalled to discover
the "benevolent" organization called
the OSCE is pushing incremental legislation into the parliaments,
Congresses, etc., of 57 countries to
equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism,
and requiring "member" countries to
file reports of same with their office.
There are bills pending in the USA as we speak. See http://tandis.odihr.pl/
for a starting point on a very dismal
journey into the legitimization of
the New World Order.
Follow the links, particularly the
"Key Issues" tab on top, where you
will find the item "Holocaust Remembrance" as a choice, as well as
Hate Crime, Anti-Semitism, etc.
Read between the lines at the OSCE site.
Let he that hath wisdom, read and understand.
-Thanks,
-db

Danny Brown 2009-10-18 00:09:36

In response to:
re:
Antecedents of The Golden Man 2009-10-17 22:01:25

I agree with the statement that
“There is a financial elite that got sometimes are clever, other times are not. What bands them together is not religion or race, but simply obscene amounts of money.”

I disagree with
Please leave religio-politico hate claims out of what is really going on:

There is no “hate claim” in my message. I point out that there is a very real and tangible effort to
politicize and legitimize the actions of the Elitists by way of associating themselves with the
Jewish people and their many trials and tribulations.

If you had followed the URL’s I provided you would not make such a ridiculous statement.

In support of YOUR statement I point out that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion comply very
closely with the present world situation.
Read: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm . The text is there.

Authorities say that this book, in its many iterations, has been used to discredit Masons, Jews,
Bolsheviks, and who knows who else. Wikipedia has an article on this, as well as others sites.

The term “Zionist” derives from compliance with the “protocols” set forth in this manual. Regardless of whom the target of the “conspiracy theory” is , the strategy is spelled out in detail,
and is very obvious that the mechanisms of control and oppression set forth in this work
are being followed by someone.
We call them Zionists.

Please do not play into their hands by arbitrarily labeling all of us who are truly concerned.
Do the research. Spread the word. Above all, know what you are talking about before you make accusations.

Thank you.
-Danny Brown







Mr
Henry 2009-10-19 22:55:20

I wonder why people dont trust Governments any more,all the big companies are being allowed to do just what they want, Genetically Modified crops being one, we wont be able to grow organic crops any more if Companies like Monsanto get there way.
now we have the issue over H1N1 Swine flue Virus, Well what happend in the Gulf why did so many people suffer with Gulf War Syndrome, not just the soldiers who were vaccinated to go out there, but Civillian people who had the Vaccination, who did not go out there had simular , quantaties of Squalene in there systems.
But then again if Squalene did not cause Gulf War Syndrome, what did.
People are getting very aware these days
of possible long term after affects of vaccinations, And Governments dont know what to do about it.
There are Doctors, and Scientists denouncing the Swine flue Virus injections, the question is are the Drug Companies out to make a fast buck with no concideration of future outcomes.

Danny Brown 2009-10-20 00:06:50

That is an excellent question. Most of the people I know do not trust the government. Here in the USA, that is. I’d like to know how it is in other countries.
If anyone knows where there is an appropriate forum to discuss this I would like very much to know.
sysyphus@sc.rr.com


Connie 2009-10-20 05:39:39

Confidence! I teach it as a high school teacher..and yet see so much passivity in the U.S...in airports, all over the world really. It takes great confidence to refuse what authority dictates...but I do it all the time...the govt., the IRS, the police...that is, be police, but firm...line up your ducks? Resist, resist...because your gut tells you it is right...and the info given on this and similar sites...
Connie 2009-10-20 05:40:59

I meant 'be polite' or tactful and smart....but keep your confidence and be firm...resist!
to the webmaster
IwontGetTheVaccine 2009-10-22 14:34:58

Hej Johan,
First of all thank you and thank Jane for your work. Here in Spain people is very aware of the situation and there is a great silent and peaceful resistance to take the swine flu shot. Just today the goverment highlighted the voluntary character of the vaccination. However, we keep on trying to spread this information out not only in Spain but also in other spanish-speaking countries. That´s why it is very important to get the web translated into spanish too as many people can´t reach the information due to language skills limitations.
Thank you again. We are suporting you from the distance.
Immune to gov. bs
Bostjan Avsec 2009-10-24 10:52:42

Avir and Baxter AG are just a part of our daily life. Criminal elites are now a days very much cooperating on a world/international level. The main problems for them represent values and morals that some people still have.

What they want and need is creating world of chaos ! RULE THE WORLD WITH ANARCHY ! And that is where criminal companies such as Avir and Baxter AG fit into.

To learn more about me, simply type in Google engine my name or book which isn't officially published just yet...that is:

2008, It's a free world; between life and truth ! by Avsec Bostjan

I need help just like you do Jane...lawyers specialized in international law and book publishers are what I need at this time the most.

If interested, please reply at awb001@gmail.com

And Jane...god bless you with power and sufficient support/help from conscious people who serve us as officials and are unconditionally willing to prevent crime from spreading forward !
ITS A SHAME
cody hass 2009-10-25 21:12:41

it's a shame you mention the illuminati - as many will now have you down as a tin foil hat shape-shifting loony. no offence.
danny brown 2009-10-25 21:24:19

Oh, I don't know about that... I think that the more we mention such things the less fearful they become.
-dbrown

Humans as guinie pigs
Gladys B. 2009-10-25 22:27:10

My Ex. husband was totally paralized from taking a drug for his Parkinson Disease. If people and Doctors would just concentrate on building up everyone's Immune System instead of giving drugs so freely, there would be very little drugs needed. Oh but wait, that is what the problem is, "IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY" People would not need any shots PERIOD, if they just worked on upgrading their IMMUNE SYSTEM. I know of several of my friends who have died and have taken many drugs in their life.
I received to take Drugs and try to improve my life style, exercise and a decent diet of Vegies & fruits etc. Everthing in moderation.
It would be helpful if the Hospitals would just clean up their act with the "STAFF" problem so that many patients don't get STAFF and die also.

I am "75" years old and I take no
Medication and play tennis, golf and still work 1 day a week. I contribute my good health to not letting the Doctors etc. scare me into taking toxins. I do take a nutritional product for the last 6 years and believe that is very helpful.

A Happy 75 yr.old lady free of Toxic Drugs.

Gladys B.
Salmon Arm B.C.
Canada.
Follow Up re error
Gladys B. 2009-10-25 22:42:01

Error in my second paragraph.

Should read: I refused to take drugs, not received.

Gladys B.
Humans as Guinie Pigs
Gladys B. 2009-10-25 22:50:47

Error Follow Up

My second Paragraph should read:

I refused to take drugs, not I recived.

Gladys B.
Daniel Martin 2009-10-26 22:37:23

Well since Jane has woken up to reality, let me suggest collioal silver (normal) with 0.01 - 0.04 mirncon size with 10-20ppm.

This stuff would actually cure every known sickness known to man and these people know about it.

A doctor from the 70's did research into this and found it did work on alot of stuff but i know it will cure everything at it's root and not it's arm.

This stuff will completely protect you against anything listed as viral in every single textbook regarding viruses and all of that as well as anything listed under bacteria and as well as fungus and yes the seed of all cancer is a fungus and the cancer can not function without the fungus...if you think about that like an atom with it's spin going round it...or in the physics world like a wrench in a bike wheel.

There you have it...pharmas biggest secret and yes the natural medicine stuff is the absolute supierior stuff and is extremely safe and nature and works and it won't have that virus resistance because this is god's medicine but colloidal silver is the legal equivlent but then thc can cure alot of things too because it has the same properties as colloidal silver regarding anti viral, fungal, bacteria.

Have fun.
Humans are Guinie Pigs
Gladys B. 2009-10-27 23:20:32

I forgot to mention earlier that I do not take any flu shots and never get sick or get the Flu.

Since I am 75 yrs. old I believe staying away from toxic drugs has helped me to stay well. Also, of course, I try to pay attention to my health as I mentioned earlier.

Please everyone, read and get educated on what Toxins are doing to your bodies.

A Happy Healthy 75 Yr. Old.

Gladys B.
Salmon Arm, B.C.
Canada
Ignoramce
High Stakes Poker 2009-10-29 15:45:59

TO THOSE OF YOU WHO SPOKE TO AND ABOUT JANE NEGATIVELY, I HAVE BUT ONE QUESTION.
WHY? WERE IT NOT FOR THIS WOMAN WORKING DAY AND NIGHT TO GET THE WORD OUT AND QUITE POSSIBLY STOP THE MASS MURDER OF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, WE WOULD ALL BE IGNORANT TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A CONSPIRACY TO KILL AS MANY OF US AS THEY CAN. IF YOU THINK SHE IS FULL OF SHIT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVE AND PROVE HER WRONG!
Laughter
Anonymous 2009-11-07 03:18:17

HAHAHAHHAHA this whole idea is crazy. Mass murder with the vaccine? I got the vaccine and am still alive and well. HAHAHAHHA You are probably one of the people that donated money to this site aren't you??? yikes.
Mr.
Marco 2009-10-29 20:19:13

Dear Reader,(Jane?),

I am reflecting on and trying to understand what is really going ahead...Of course I am bewildered...May I tell you my impression?
The allegation that someone organizes voluntarily to harm Human Genre is impossible to swallow and you should not use it...Dan Brown Could write "Illuminati" lightly because His, was a work of "fiction"...
I always wonder if things happen because they are fully calculated or because a pattern of events and thoughts is statistically possible and then probably can fall in effect...
Like in the formation of proteins is some kind of law of the weakest energy needed which rules things...
For the mass (most of people) is more energy convenient to refer the effort and responsibility to understand what happens to them, to someone higher and bigger; and who allegedly knows more... It has always been like that...

Your statement, so early during your declaration in this page, that
"Also, I suggest that there are reasonable grounds for believing that Baxter is part of a secret bioweapons programme and that there are plans to release weaponised bird flu on the world’s population soon." just makes you weaker and you should not (IMO) use it, especially if the rest of what you declare is true...

The burning points are the following :

1. "Is it true that an ordinary flu vaccine has been contaminated with bird flu virus?"
To demonstrate THAT is already "ein riesen werk" (genau gesagt? ich hoffe).

2. "How could something like that happen in an environment of maximal biotechnological safety, control, and alert?"

3."Was it deliberate?"...that is the most delicate point, in my opinion.

4. "Might this happen again in the event of Baxter being entrusted to produce the last "swine" [A(H1N1)] vaccine?"

5."Can something like this happen in any laboratory because of a distracted day?" - Sorry if this question is already naiver...

For transparency's sake I will say this ...
I constructed myself not to trust anything or anybody...
Then I would probably not trust You, and I would probably not trust Dan Brown (or Danny); but I probably wouldn't trust Baxter inc., and all the the other international corporations (so called multinationals) whose prime interest being profit is very natural, lapalissian (from Lapalisse or de La Palice), not a scandal...
We live in a society where money is the first value...is it my or your fault or someone else's fault ? I don't know...
But anyone of us needs money to get what he needs to live and survive...Money more than moral or fair biological values...That's the worm to defeat (and that worm has not the eyes of hebraism or communism or any other symbol but a billion of eyes)
Is someone making more money duping others.. That's another question...
How big is the dupe...
Are people educated and given the tools to understand which dupe is bigger at the moment...?
At the beginning, after getting to know your story I was curious, then scared, then skeptic, then it can not be true because I couldn't handle...

Public responsibility (of course not only your shoulders should sustain that) is now to understand and prove what really happened in this episode or others....

I, for example can't read czech and I can not browse czech websites to confirm what happened in that “czech laboratory”...What was its name exactly? (sorry if I demand too much, thank u)

I hope I and You and every single one would have time and force to read Schopenauer and understand that between human beings is not any degree of Truth what makes one party or the other win the dialectic competition...

But I also hope that in our XXI century Truth can be treated better by at least part of institutions...

A bit Clear and a Bit Confused, hoping to wake up in a different world tomorrow

Me

Italy

Danny R. Brown 2009-10-30 02:05:24

In response to Marco: First let me say that I believe that I understand what you mean, and I think that the questions you ask are sensible.
What I believe, and what I hear others saying, is that there is more than one layer to this.

Alfred Nobel, the inventor of Dynamite, a great labor-saving device, told his wife:
"Perhaps my factories will put an end to war sooner than your congresses: on the day that two army corps can mutually annihilate each other in a second, all civilised nations will surely recoil with horror and disband their troops."
http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/biographical/articles/tagil/index.h tml

That is one dimension of this thread, that Industrialists have a certain conscience. We all know that Alfred’s will established a trust to reward those who would forward the cause of peace.

The next layer is greed. The Brittish adopted the Maxim gun as an instrument of conquest. There was no other purpose for this invention other than to make lots of money and kill lots of people. By WWI everyone had them and rather than give up on allowing the enemy to slaughter their people they simply drafted more of them and bought more machine guns.

Today the scenario is not very different. There is still money to be made by killing people. Lots of money. And the spectrum of weapons has expanded greatly- from nukes to chemicals to biological agents to mind control -particularly the American Mainstream Media, which is demonstrably in collusion with such projects as tainted vaccinations,
psychotropic drugs, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and corporate takeover of the world economy.
Read Jane’s preamble to this thread. Read Leonard Horowitz’s Affidavit at
http://www.fluscam.com/Affidavit_files/AFFIDAVIT%20OF%20LEONARD%20G.pd f
on this site, and Michael Moore’s “Capitalism: A Love Story”, downloadable on the Web. Plus the dozens of documentaries on http://www.infowars.com.

Marco says:
“But anyone of us needs money to get what he needs to live and survive...Money more than moral or fair biological values...That's the worm to defeat (and that worm has not the eyes of hebraism or communism or any other symbol but a billion of eyes).”

The “worm” does exist, it has existed, and it will grow as long as we allow it. There are
people who do not experience Empathy, as Nobel did. These people are deviants in every
clinical sense. They will make money selling candy if they can, and if some of their candy is tainted with arsenic they won’t care, as long as they make their profit.
That is what is so hard for “normal”, caring, feeling people to grasp. That there are in fact
such people living, and living well, because they can make more money without morals
that they could with morals.

That is why the work of Jane, Horowitz, Moore, et al., is so crucial to our survival.


Marco says:
“For the mass (most of people) is more energy convenient to refer the effort and responsibility to understand what happens to them, to someone higher and bigger; and who allegedly knows more... It has always been like that...”


The “courtroom” evidence most people want is slowly leaking out. In the meantime the
raw information is available, if you look.
Sometimes the only way to open the eyes of the “Higher and bigger” is to rub it in their
face :-). That is what some of us, and I hope you yourself, are trying to do.

Peace,
-dbrown

illuminati
Kevin Mithchell 2009-10-30 15:19:43

here are SOME people aware of this global organised crime entity( OF WHICH THE ILLUMINATE ARE ONLY JUST A PART), despite the massive PR campaign to add it to the wackey lefts "conspiracy list). As we wake up and are not afraid to expose it perhaps we can shift to our rightful paradigm of peace and justice for all. This (and other) tactics used by the 'luciferian' entity(by which I mean the segment of the population that believe the intellect-not the heart can steer the course of humanity)is precisley what will be the catalyst for our awakening. let us hope it comes sooner than later
Myra 2009-10-30 15:54:50

Jane is VERY brave and you above whom claim her to be a nuts are fools.Those who say your wrong, say so becasue you are missing so much evidence its just exhausting to try to even convey it. It shows you have NOT done your research and are very ignorant, not just in the points you attempt to make, but in the vast ignorance you dont realize you are showing.Anyone who has done their research can tell your either arrogant and still brainwashed or you have been hired to discredit this site. YOu can laugh all you want but we are not afriad of your judgement, because almost everyone on here has done hours and hours, months, years of their OWN research, from many sources. If you will call the free thinking, unbrainwashed crazy then you are obvioulsy still brainwashed or a servant to your NWO gods.

There are so many things WRONG with vaccines period. If you think injecting chemicals and virus (alive or dead) straight into the bloodstream, bypassing the body's defenses (ie skin and mucus membranes)your brainwashed. The lady above has it right, stay away from toxins and build immunity. People are being MURDERED EVRYDAY by drugs that they KNOW are deadly but hide the real facts, omit critical info and release to the public, to be prescribed by doctors. All the while real natural cures are being supressed. Intravenous Vitamin C, or H2O2 will knock out, cure, any flu.

Dr. Gary Null put together a team of investigative lawyers and has proof of lies on the effectiveness of any vaccine, asw ell as specific manipulation of data on H1N1. They are twisting up science into a sham. Many credible scientists have stepped forward and called BS on this.
lets look at the last "pandemic"
interested party 2009-10-30 20:52:27

the avian flu that didn't strike how it was predicted.... sars .. yeah real big hit there .. mad cow .. um ok .. little bit more impact there than the others but still no where near as bad as what was predicted .. when do we finally get something that was actually horrendous .. oh yeah the spanish flu ..

Personally I am not thinking that this is an Illuminati plot for world domination, but just corruption of political officials and drug companies trying to make a buck. wouldn't be the first time a company created a fictitious demand for their product (re gas crisis back in the late seventies early eighties there was no real gas crisis). I guess I am just viewing them as the little boy who cried wolf for attention. I am looking at the facts including past performance of your warning systems (re: WHO etc. ) the speed at which the vaccines cleared testing ( way to quickly for accurate trials to have been performed especially with the recent studies on the blood brain barrier and vaccines for children under 3). Hey I could be wrong here not saying I have all the facts just a few of them. everything I have said in this post is a matter of public record and can be easily looked up.

Additionally it is on record that one of the possible side affects is paralysis according to my GP ( who I did talk to about my concerns ) "however the odds of it actually occurring were relatively small though it has been seen in past vaccines that were rushed to market the way this one had been " his words .. he didn't want to tell me whether or not HE would take the vaccine. and that to me spoke volumes.
mr
dick 2009-10-31 06:27:21

interesting to note some of the high ups at Baxter are being awarded honors. Guess by who???


America-Israel Chamber of Commerce Chicago Celebrates 50th Anniversary
Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:32pm EDT
Dr. Norbert G. Riedel of Baxter International Honored with 2008 Business
Leadership Award

CHICAGO, April 14 /PRNewswire/ -- The America-Israel Chamber of Commerce
Chicago (AICC) is pleased to announce its 2008 Annual Awards and 50th
Anniversary Celebration, "Technology Knows No Bounds - Collaborating Across
Borders to Advance Healthcare Worldwide." This year, Norbert G. Riedel,
Ph.D., Corporate Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer at Baxter
International, will be presented with the 2008 Business Leadership Award.
Mayor Richard M. Daley, Mayor of the City of Chicago, and David N. Jonas
of PharMEDium Healthcare Corp. are this year's honorary Chairmen and Jane
Fischer of Baxter International is the honorary Chairwoman.
Dr. Riedel joined Baxter in 1998 as President of the recombinant unit
within Baxter's BioScience business. Prior to joining Baxter, he was head of
worldwide biotechnology and core research functions at Hoechst Marion Roussel,
now Sanofi-Aventis. Dr. Riedel serves on the board of directors of Oscient
Pharmaceuticals Corporation and Medigene AG. He is chairman of the Illinois
Biotechnology Industry Organization (iBIO) and a member of the Advisory Board
of Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management Center for
Biotechnology
the Czech event
joanna 2009-11-01 06:17:10

Does anyone know the name of the Czech laboratory, the person there who discovered the contamination, date, any articles? Marco asked the question and noone has answered it so far..
Mr.
Marco 2009-11-01 07:10:07

Hi Everyone,
How are you Yet?

First of All, I would like to know who is Danny R. Brown...
We hope or don't hope that he is the real Dan Brown
(Da Vinci Code writer)
We don't hope I think...;and later I will tell you why it is better he is not...


I am slowly getting convinced that in this Influenza AH1N1 case something is really rotten...
And that after having watched a little bit what the so called mainstream media (Chomsky teaches) are broadcasting in the USA.
My immediate reaction was sadness, because I perceived what might have been the quality of daily life for the average Americans; the ones who do not emerge in the mainstream medias shows.
I watched William Schafner of Vanderbilt University Medical School, talking; and the reaction was the following:
- I would rather go in New Zealand than do what he says...(is there another Schafner in New Zealand? Where should i go? :) -

Then one reads his impressive list of papers, titles, and honors...One gets impressed...
The list is here

http://medicine.mc.vanderbilt.edu/Templates/TemplateDivision.aspx?qs=c ElEPTcwMg==

But does one have the time to read what is detailed in each one of those single papers? What is in those papers?

Then something strange happened...
I have had the sudden recall of that 1956 movie, the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", an idea to rewatch it...
Can someone tell me why? Is it the bad influence of this website? Of course it is...
And also from what subconscious basin had that movie come out? (already 1956)
And others movie with that skew (there have been many Virus movies - haven't they)


For the sake of the whole thing i would like to try to minimize terms...
Who are these Illuminati? Do they exist? Are they the chiefs of International Corporations doing Pharmaceutical Industry, and Banking, and Oil?
I propose this : let's call them not Illuminati but Oscurati (Blinders? i will conceive other names soon).

My hypothesis is that the whole ship of pharmaceutical industry has got a bad drift...But it is not because of a plot, but because

1. yes money has become too important
2. we didn't take in considerations the importance of individual variations. then maybe vaccines were and are,
good for some body and not for some one else
3. yes, universities with a big name (because of more money) are given more trust than other universities by the average (no time) user



To jajar i would say :

1. i don't know if your posting a url worked
2. This reassortment thing is a bit stinking isn't it...where is more probable that 2 viruses reassort? In someone's body or in a chicken egg embryo after having injected them?

p.s.
where is jane. what is she doing?
p.p.s
I like very much this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7VTqZBLnI

but i have too long an experience in watching documentaries and docufictions
not to see a good "hand" behind it.
Still i don't condamn anything...
Behind lies there are truths and behind Truths lies.
Just let's be adult and let's try to make something out of this flucase. And that something is to understand only the parts which are wrong in modern medicine which makes people anxious (see my hypothesis).
Because noone wants to go back to middleage...We still need antibiotics if we really get pneumonia or the right cream if something creeps and hitch in our pubes...Am I right?
p.p.p.s
Congratulations to webmaster Johan Niklasson
At least his is a "real" well made website


Running with the hare and hunting with the hounds, (and exorcizing fears)

Me









Danny R. Brown 2009-11-01 21:04:31

01 Nov. 2009

Marco:
I am NOT Dan Brown of “DaVinci” fame.
I am very curious to know
“We don't hope I think...;and later I will tell you why it is better he is not...” :-)

I am not of any particular notoriety, except to my small circle of somewhat eccentric friends. I am 57 years old and retired from a long career as a Broadcasting Engineer.
In that capacity I have traveled around a bit and seen perhaps more than I wish I had.
I certainly understand the power and influence of the “Mass Media” and I believe that
I understand why my countrymen are so hopelessly confused and divided.
Having said that my opinions are frequently bashed, sometimes because they are the product of a burned-out brain, sometimes because I forget who I’m talking to and how
they might not be accustomed to my perversities, as my long-suffering friends are :-)

Feel free to tell me when to shut up. I probably won’t, but it may slow me down…

Thanks,
-dbrown
sysyphus@sc.rr.com


Marco 2009-11-01 07:14:35

Behind lies there are Truths and behind truths Lies.
Marco 2009-11-01 07:18:30

The laboratory should be Bio Test s.r.o.
But my sources are yours so i am not sure...
We would need a czech-english bilingual
marco 2009-11-01 14:19:20

This is a must read

especially the

'Thimerosal Toxicity' paragraph...

I don't know if to laugh or cry.

Lord help us,


marco 2009-11-01 14:20:18

http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesa fety/ucm096228
Danny R. Brown 2009-11-01 19:31:14

I tried three times. The FDA server says that the referenced item is not found.
-dbrown
danny r. brown 2009-11-01 19:35:36

http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesa fety/ucm096228

Sorry. There was a gap in "safety".
It's there.

-dbrown

mr.
marco 2009-11-01 23:17:22

DBrown,
Since you are there
read in that 'Thimerosal toxicity'

http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesa fety/ucm096228#tox

when they made the first 'Safety test'...
When they describe the first Thimerosal Injection (intravenously) in Humans

This should be the Powell and Jamieson
original research Paper (made inside Ely Lilly research Laboratories, Indinapolis Indiana

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/15/1/292

Of course one needs a subscription to read the whole article. Is that a limitation of Democracy?

Human beings ('scientists' included) are weak and slacker (like the quote?) inside any imagination.

Until we don't solve the education problem in a utopistic democratic way (giving sources to the intelligent without the money filter) we will always have any sort of problems. That must not be easy, seen in a few thousands of years what we got is this world model where we live now.
Civilization is not easy. The one we have now has still casualties. We must think better, but not getting worse.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but i see it can have positive effects, like inspiring to read, get informed, think, and remember.

Thank you for that,
marco

p.s.
since we re between friends, dbrown,
how did you post your later post before mine that was earlier
peace
Danny R. Brown 2009-11-03 04:29:00

Sorry, I was down for awhile.

Marco:
It is very frustrating sometimes to understand why people do what they do. I believe that most people
don’t always know why they do some things, themselves.
Really, there is no reason why we should worry about it anyway, unless we are bitten
by the Philosophy bug, like Aristotle or Socrates.
It was very unpleasant for me to learn that many people aren’t like the ones I was raised with. We all learn that people are different as we grow up, of course, but I’m not talking about the people who don’t like beer and cheese. J
I mean those who lack what we might call “soul” or “heart” or “humanity”. This was very difficult for me to grasp until I studied addiction and personality disorders.
It struck me that there are similarities between people we call “sick” and some of the people we say are “successful” or even “powerful”. There really isn’t much difference
between many hard-core heroin or cocaine addicts and some of the “respected” people I worked with over the years. I say people I worked with because I knew them. I spoke to them often and listened to what they said to others.
I didn’t simply read a newspaper article about them. I was there. I can tell you that my experience is that some people receive intense gratification (“reward”) from such things
as hoarding money, or inspiring fear in people, or gambling, etc… you know this, I’m sure, but I wasn’t taught this growing up, and when I realized that there were men who would do absolutely anything to get their “dope”- be it drugs, money, sex, whatever-
I was really freaked out.
I continued to read and learn, and I learned that some behaviours (“habits”, if you would)
are learned in childhood. Then I learned that some behaviours and beliefs are purposely
taught to children for “bad” reasons, as we define bad vs. good. By that I mean racial
hatred, religious intolerance, even “honor” in the form of revenge against ancient enemies.
Some children are taught that money is everything. Either by example, or, in some cases,
by tradition. Either way way the value of human life is subverted. Money becomes more important than charity, for instance, and wise sayings are invented to excuse one who
will not give a cup of water from his well to a man dying of thirst, because the unfortunate doesn’t have a sou to pay for it with.

I know that there are a thousand reasons for addiction. It doesn’t have to start in childhood. I write this long winded story because, as you said,

“Until we don't solve the education problem in a utopistic democratic way (giving sources to the intelligent without the money filter) we will always have any sort of problems. That must not be easy, seen in a few thousands of years what we got is this world model where we live now.
Civilization is not easy. The one we have now has still casualties. We must think better, but not getting worse.”

The “Families” which continue to practice their contempt for, and control over, mankind will do what they must to keep us in submission. They will do this by choosing which News stories are broadcast and how they are written; they will do this by absorbing small companies into huge conglomerates, and then fixing prices; they will bribe and threaten
our politicians; they will create markets for their very expensive drugs by, shall we say,
creating the need for them. They will spread rumors of weapons of mass destruction
which do not exist, and murder civilians, so that they can sell weapons and ammunition;
they will protect themselves by making it illegal to speak out against them. And so on,
without regard for human dignity, because they cannot stop, and will never get enough of
the drugs they crave- money, and power.
It saddens me that so many of us are silenced by those simple words- "conspiracy theorists"- when the truth of it all is so easy to see.
-dbrown

marco 2009-11-01 23:29:28



Dbrown you were right

the url is

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSa fety/ucm096228.htm

also searching "thimerosal"
at
http://www.fda.gov
should work

sorry,
errors are there..Let's defeat them :)

p.s.
that multivial idea of jane is right (filtered amongst the awe of the whole story)
why is necessary to use Multivials Vaccines in the first place (thing that forces to use a preservative like Thimerosal..)
Can someone from the one or the other bank of the river answer, pls?


http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyav
marco 2009-11-01 23:31:53


marco 2009-11-01 23:32:34


http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesa fety/ucm096228.htm

marco 2009-11-01 23:34:09

the space between safe and ty in the url is unwanted
sorry for flooding
i will just read for a week
marco 2009-11-01 23:36:44

oh no
gap in "safety" i got it was network problem
lord help us
marco 2009-11-02 01:05:39


In July 1999, U.S. Department of Health and Human Service agencies, The American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury from all sources. The decision to move toward reduced or eliminated thimerosal in vaccines was based on the various Federal guidelines for methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from methyl and ethyl mercury were the same.

http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/topics/vaccines/research/vaccines.htm

marco 2009-11-02 01:14:58


If there are no scientific links between Thimerosal and Autism, why this would exist in the first place

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/

I think someone is regreding here...


marco 2009-11-02 02:20:53

In a source i can not cite i have read that one side effect of Thimerosal can be that one won't be able to read or write thimerosal anymore. That scared me out of my skin... :)

brinda 2009-11-02 12:05:31

im in australia and i have a young toddler, i wasnt going to get the vaccine
does this affect australia, im sorry if this sounds dumb but please help
Urban 2009-11-02 14:14:26

Har ni börjat få slut på argument?

Jag har under lång tid väntat på att ni ska lägga upp något om att kliniska tester är fejk. Men den sidan kom aldrig upp med nått innehåll, nu är den helt borta

Problemet med konspirationsteoretiker som ni är att ni tar bort fokus från andra problem i samhället. T.ex. det ekonomiska systemet vi lever i. Vaccinet är inte farligt, snarare tvärtom eftersom det ger möjlighet till läkemedelsbolagen att tjäna pengar på oss om och om igen.

Trist att ni skrämmer upp folk, undrar nu bara hur länge min kommentar får ligga kvar - om ni ens låter den komma upp
web master www.theflucase.com
Johan Niklasson 2009-11-02 15:27:08

Bäste Urban

Tack för din kommentar. Vi har publicerat över 900 artiklar och många av dem är starkt kritiska mot de kliniska tester vilka gjorts så långt - på vaccin i allmänhet och de nya vaccinen i synnerhet. Om du använder vår utmärkta sökfunktion kommer du finna mängder med artiklar i ämnet.

Vi breddar varje vecka det fält vi bevakar till att slutligen inkludera samtliga viktiga områden i samhället. Det finansiella systemets brister och underligheten är något vi snart kommer att ta tag i. Just nu är de dödliga vaccinen viktigast att rapportera om.

Vi skrämmer verkligen inte upp någon. Till skillnad från massmedia i övrigt vill vi informera sakligt om eventuella risker och ge information baserad på vetenskapliga fakta istället för propaganda. En vanlig reaktion bland våra läsare är snarast lättnad eftersom vår rapportering förklarat vad som egentligen pågår vilket underlättar beslut och orientering.

MVH
Johan Niklasson

marc 2009-11-03 04:23:46

is ther any good chat where to talk about new influenza AH1N1 subjetc?
Klett 2009-11-03 04:45:26


If all this is true, how one should organise his thinking and actions?
Now is the Flu jab, later it will be something else...We let democracy break down, all the governments look the same, no one of them seems to love analysis and investigation of the truth (if truth still exists)...
What a single can think to do in such a situation, real or invented it might seem...?


Other toxic "stuff"...
Andrew 2009-11-03 17:07:25

On another note - we are all slowly getting our share of toxins accumulated in our bodies and it's through everday use items (oil based chemicals) - and the effects started to show up already! Look at that one movie (~44 minutes): "The Disappearing Male" (link: http://www.archive.org/details/TheDisappearingMale-CBC or on UTube)
It will add more questions to the ones rised here...
Klett 2009-11-04 06:06:36

I am becoming wise...I think we are all idiots no matter how rich...
We are not able to solve complicated problems and this is the result of game level we are in...
When the real problems will come (because there are problems) we will be all in the shit, cause averagely we are more expert in rocketry...
the whole influenza scam looks even sweet to me now, work of amateurs...
the problem is that all this idiots' game has made, is making and will make a lot of damage...And i happen to live in this world too...

I am angry and i want back the things i lost during past time : namely one pullover, one headlamp, a dictionary, a mobile phone..and many other objects.
I lost them because i was distracted by idiots game.
I want to be rembursed for having to have to do with idiots.
Marco 2009-11-05 08:50:08

is there any encrypted chat where one can sort out these kind of subjects ?
danny r. brown 2009-11-05 21:20:52

I have a peer-to-peer program called Ares which has a chat feature I believe may be suitable. ( I use Ares but I've never used the chat feature.)
I'll read up on it...encryption and
address "obfustication" are features of
the process.
-dbrown
Anonymous 2009-11-06 20:52:51

"How happy is the Moron, He doesn't give a Damn.
I wish I was a Moron. My God perhaps I am"
Isa Walter 2009-11-07 03:14:31

You are like a historical uniquely appearing and incomparable - and by the way female ! - comet in the heavens of these - also incomparabely - darkened times, your light starting to shine all over.

In which times ever can shine light brighter!?

Your actions until now already made you an indestructable example and unforgotten person, as admirable as courageous. Give, that we all take an example and follow in our very own missions.

Give, that the strength you´ll need now and in your future will always be there for you.

Love,

I. Walter


Liebe Jane Burgermeiter,

wie ein unvergleichlicher, bewundernswerter, beispielloser und ohne Gleichen hell strahlender Komet erheben Sie sich an den dunkelsten Himmeln unserer Zeit, die auch ohne Beispiel sind.

Hell wird Ihr Licht sich zeitlos über die Welt verbreiten. Nie hat es ein Besipiel gegeben wie Ihres! Erst die Zeit wird es in aller Dimension zeigen.

Gebe, daß Ihnen alle Kraft zufließt, derer Sie bedürfen, alle Mittel, alle Hilfen für diese unvergleichliche Aufgabe, derer Sie bestimmmt sind und derer Sie sich ebenso couragiert annehmen.

Sie sind jetzt schon, unabhängig vom weiteren Verlauf, eine historische und obendrein sehr liebenswürdig anmutende Persönlichkeit, der alle Würde und Unterstützung gebührt.

Und wenn diese Zeiten nur dafür da wären, Menschen wie Sie hervorzubringen, Leuchten wie diese, dann hätten Sie sich schon gelohnt.

Ein Beispiel für alle und jeden, weltweit. Gebe, daß jeder seiner Aufgabe so nachkomme wie Sie.

Dann wäre die Welt eine so unvergleichlich andere, wie das kaum ermessen werden kann.

Mit besten und völlig sprachlosen Grüßen an Sie und Ihr unglaubliches Projekt, Vorgehen und Vorhaben.

Aller Schutz der Welt sei jetzt und in Zukunft auf Ihnen!

I. Walter

Brent Cole 2009-11-10 06:50:03

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjgI_6C2HT0
I was quite interested in college in genetics, so I attained a good grasp of the basics. This video is authentic and truthful from what I know, and what I checked out on the network on the people named therein.

There have been several attempts on my life because of court cases I filed detailing conspiracy against Rights. Obstruction of justice to protect the conspiracy against rights and preclude those responsible being prosecuted for attempts to murder me was committed by the FBI, Federal District Court Judges James K. Singleton Jr., Judge John Sedwick, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and the Supreme Court of the United States.

During this eight year ordeal of attempting to protect Rights and obtain prosecution for the attempts on my life, I have learned that the United States is nothing but a for profit corporation, that is impersonating a government and that there is not one shred of legitimacy nor is there any rule of law by which the United States (corporation) abides. Said corporation is owned and controlled by foreign entities as it is in receivership. The trustee for the receivership is the Secretary of the Treasury.
RNA evidence
Guy 2009-11-08 13:11:42

Has anyone checked into the RNA evidence presented in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjgI_6C2HT0
daniela mühlbauer 2009-11-09 05:53:51

liebe jane wir möchten und werden ihnen gerne helfen bitte sagen sie uns wie!schreiben sie mir an meine e-mail adresse (removed by web master to protect from spam) mit grüssen daniela mühlbauer
Have hope
Grzegorz Leonczuk 2009-11-09 12:16:37

Om,

Hindu Puranas, which constite the most excellent body of knowledge, say openly that in times when evil threatens to overcome goodness The Lord comes down and restores righteousness. It happened in 1976 in India. He has all powers in His command. He will rescue humanity and it is certain. He took the name of Sai Baba. There is a prophecy in Wishnu Puranas made thousands of years ago, that when in Kali Yuga (our times) the evil would get the upper hand totally - apparently - then the Lord would intervene unleashing His might. It will happen. www.sathyasai.org
Brent Cole 2009-11-10 03:41:54

I had not picked up on the OSCE, but a glance at their website tells me that you are correct. They boast of being a protector of human rights, and spout NWO propaganda about war crimes of the former Yugoslavia. I am familiar with the fact that the only war crimes which were committed were committed by the United States, NATO, and the UN. Slobodan Milosevic (the duly elected president) was falsely accused of war crimes and then murdered in his jail cell in the Hague, as were also six others who were arrested with him in the Balkans. He was poisoned with a rare drug for treating leporacy or tuberculosis (ribanthenen?) and then it was claimed he must have mistakenly been given the wrong pills. He had complained for some time about being poisoned, and had sent blood samples out for analysis right before he was murdered in his cell. Clearly the OSCE is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The war crimes which were committed, such as dispersing depleted uranium throughout the countryside have not been prosecuted but hey have been concealed and whitewashed.
What we are fighting is for profit corporations which are impersonating governments, but are owned by the international Banksters and Zionists. I am convinced that we are warranted to take whatever steps as are necessary to thwart the agenda of these criminals, as there truly exists no rule of law any longer... it is all a facade.
Marco 2009-11-10 14:25:41

how many are we and how many are they?
Big diference
Stephen Q 2009-11-10 14:41:02

They: about 10 000 give or take
We: about 40 million give or take
re: Laughter is the best medicine
unsolicited testimonial 2009-11-11 16:22:22

Anonymous wrote:
HAHAHAHHAHA this whole idea is crazy. Mass murder with the vaccine?
I got the vaccine and am still alive and well. HAHAHAHHA ...yikes.


er, yes, perhaps in a vegetative sense, but there has clearly been a loss of contact
with that area above the neck line...do keep in touch, we'd love to know how that
progresses! Pictures if possible.
Re: re: Laughter is the best medicine
Clear Mind 2009-11-11 17:07:20

No one ever said that vaccines are immediately fatal, eventhough that did happen on many cases. All the proven poisons in vaccine serve to weaken the immune system. In some cases, weaken or impair brain function, as readers of the "2009-11-11 16:22:22" post can see.
Chill out
Anonymous 2009-11-11 18:52:38

My brain function and immune system are just fine, thank you. Many other people that I know who got the vaccine are also fine! I would send a picture but you would be jealous that I look better than you. ha!
Eileen Latuputti 2009-11-12 00:23:55

THEY HAVE STARTED DEPOPULATION...
they have vacinated children in over 100 School, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Jersey
It seems they concentrate in schools W/ poorer neighborhood and gift them with rasins, cheese sticks, Pumpkin pins,
Most parents don't own a computer-nor are primary english speakers. Kids are vaccinated
with a spray, up their nose.. (I Like it.!! It was cold..but it was fun.!!!!..)
THOSE FUCKERS LLUMINATII SHOULD DIE.!!!

PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE FIGHT AGAINT MEN WITH MACHINE HEARTS AND GREEDY MINDS
THEY LIVE IN DARKNESS THEY FEED OFF DEATH AND SORROW OF INNOCENT MEN..!!!
FIGHT THEM WITH YOUR WITS---THEY ARE FEW...WE ARE MANY....DESTROY THEM.!!
HUMANITY WILL PREVAIL.... WITH YOUR HELP,,,,,

for the Truth.....http://shiloka.ning.com/ or....Villagefem....

Villagefem
New York City,
Lower East Side

Anonymous 2009-11-12 03:19:15

And? How are the children? This theory of depopulation is very unreal.
Inform yourself
Conrad 2009-11-12 06:46:20

I guess it sounds strange to think that there is a depopulation program taking place today. I wish you would spend at least a few minutes researching this issue before making statements like that.

First watch the Alex Jones movie "ENDGAME". then look at all the articles on this site that have information about depopulation (use the excellent search function of the site). Then get back and express your informed opinion.


re: totallybarkinmad
tralalalalla 2009-11-12 04:30:09

Anonymous wrote:
I would send a picture but you would be jealous that I look better than you. ha!


most chilling.

oh and, "mind clear" victim...In some cases, weaken or impair brain function, as readers of the "2009-11-11 16:22:22" post can see....it may have escaped
your understanding, the interlocutor of the quoted vaccine proponent is unlikely to
have been a recipient of one...please ask your closest 'qualified health authority' to
check for reversed synapses.

like the man said....yikes!
Anonymous 2009-11-13 22:14:02

No thanks,
I was just wondering if anything bad
happened to the children after they got the
vaccine. Probably not.
re:
Anonymous 2009-11-13 22:16:03

I was replying to this message:

"First watch the Alex Jones movie "ENDGAME". then look at all the articles on this site that have information about depopulation (use the excellent search function of the site). Then get back and express your informed opinion."

Pat 2009-11-14 01:38:34

I have been reading a lot on this subject lately. I am against the vaccination. My personal opinion is that this whole issue is just a scam from the pharmaceutical companies to recover for the latest financial crisis, and as usual all of us are part of their incomes.
If you want to avoid getting sick, a lot of vitamin C and D3, exercise, and a healthy diet will do it.
Big difference
Marco 2009-11-14 23:51:41

If they are 10.000 and we are 40.000.000 shouldn't be such a big deal

i was assuming they be 100.000.000
and we 6 billions

maybe stopping watch television, buying cookies, and using bikes instead of cars should work...
Marco 2009-11-14 23:53:01

errata corrige

stopping buying cookies
danny r. brown 2009-11-15 01:33:47

1. No matter what happens, put down those cookies and jump on that bicycle!
-because-
2. you want to be alive to see this!

http://www.howcloseisapophis.com/encounters.asp

Not exactly on topic but perhaps, in some way, related ??? Very interesting,
in any case!
-d.brown




PREDICTION
Style 2010-01-24 17:25:59

Here’s my prediction. The beginning of 2011 ‘they’ will try an experiment which will go terribly wrong. 6 billions people will finally wake up and go against ‘them’. World is not ending 2012, it’s end for ‘them’. If somebody from ‘inside’ is reading this post I would like to remind ‘them’ of the satellite device which has been launched 2007 to monitor all communications.
My 3 year old
Sarah 2010-01-26 15:30:27

My 3 year old daughter will not be taking the vaccine at present, and until it has been tested she will just have to risk getting swine flu, which she's probably had already as her sisters school was closed. She might not get ill when she's had it, BUT she might get infertile, have problems later on, NOT TESTED NOT PROVEN TO WORK?? You dont have to have a high IQ.
water now contaminated too ???
dee 2010-01-28 02:26:22

ref-TOXIC VACCINES used in the past....

vaccines poisoned with hcg,a female pregnancy hormone,have apparently been used in the
past to advance rapid widespread depopulation....

the week before last the tapwater here in ireland was on and off during a few days in the whole country...the official explanation being because of flooding due to the thawing
of the 3cm snow that had fallen in most parts of ireland and had subsequently frozen to ice

a few days after the water had come back on we noticed how it smelled and tasted very different ....no longer like a swimming pool full of chlorine..but sort of sweet...and how it left a strange after taste and a prickly feeling in the mouth...although we only drink it boiled..several women have commented to us since how it reminded them of the smell of birthwater....rather strange indeed....

last week the Irish minister for health suddenly announced that she had changed her mind
and decided to vaccinate 30.000 schoolgirls against cervical cancer now....after the lack of response by the public to radio announcements urging people to get vaccinated against the swine flu maybe ???

again...rather strange....and quite intriguing....

thank you jane and johan from all my family
we are making a combined monthly donation by standing order...despite most of us now being on the breadline due to this engineered immense recession here in ireland..

thank you for all your inestimably valuable information
dee








kind of sweet
peter neisman- 2009-09-04-cancer
dee 2010-01-28 02:25:10

ref-CANCER
recently i learned that THC- extracted from hemp-is apparently quite powerful in killing cancer cells quite fast...even in cases of terminal cancer...

and that it is equally powerful in treating many other conditions...

in Persia in 2.400 BC - thus nearly 4.500 years ago- of 10.000 medicinal plants it was considered the nr.1 most powerful healer...

in 1974 it was scientifically proven in the U.S. to kill cancer cells...and broadcast publicly on radio...subsequently however this most valuable information was suppressed and completely disappeared...never to be heard of again...until recently....see the vids by Rick Simpson...especially the AUDIO tapes

my deepest respect to jane and johan
thank you !!!!!





Nurse
Johan H 2010-01-30 07:41:08

Anonym wrote:
Quote:
The Swine Flu Vaccine contains many chemcials one of which is mercury.

THIS IS A LIE!!
THERE IS NO MERCURY IN BAXTER PRODUCTS!!
The swine-flu-vaccines "Focetria" (Novartis) and "Pandemrix"(GlaxoSmithKline)contains Thiomersal, wich isn't mercury as you know from your mercury-in-glass-thermometer, but a sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate.
In Baxters "Celvapan" Trometamol is used.
and i want to say it again:
this site is built up on lies and contains 99% BULLSHIT. SHAME ON YOU JANE (if you are existing) and FUCK YOURSELF!!!


SHAME ON YOURSELF!!, YOU WHO HAS WRITTEN THIS AND EXPRECING YOU LIKE THIS!, ARE YOU REALY HUMAN? OR ARE YOU A ZOOMBIE AND CONTROLLED LIKE THE ELITE IN THE WORLD, CONTROLLED BY EVIL HIDDEN POWERS.
DO BELEIVE ME THEY REALY EXISTS! WHO IS "PRODUCED" AND CONTROLLED BY THE EVIL ROCKEFELLERS, AND THE WHOLE FINANS ELITE IN THE WORLD LIKE THE ROCKEFELLERS, ROTSCHILDTS AND JP-MORGAN THE ARE CONTROLLING THE WHOLE WORLDS FINANCE SYSTEM AND THEY ARE ONLY THINKING OF POWER,DOMNATION AND ABOWE ALL CONTROLL!
AND ITS EASIER TO CONTROLL WHEN "THEY" HAVE KILLED MOST OF THE HUMANS, THATS A FACT, WAKE UP YOU FOOL!

AND YOU jANE bURGERMEISTER YOU ARE A REAL HERO, YOU ARE TRYING TO "WAKE" PEOPLE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE!
YOU ARE GIVING A LOT OF YOURSELF WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN, THAT IS VERY ADMIRABLE, THE WORLD NEEDS MUCH MORE OF YOUR KIND!
THANK YOU!
READ THIS
Lajla 2010-01-31 17:28:50

http://www.intellasia.net/news/articles/health/111258957.shtml
HAVE A LOOK
Lajla 2010-01-31 17:30:04

http://www.intellasia.net/news/articles/health/111258957.shtml
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