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Nurses got sick from the "swine flu" vaccine in Sweden • UPDATE - 1 suspected death

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Yesterday 30 people had been reporting to the authorities in Sweden that they experienced such severe side effects that they felt the need to contact a hospital. Today the number is 140. The swedish newspaper Expressen is the only one in Sweden reporting on these cases and as usual this is most likely only the tip of a rather large iceberg.  UPDATE: According to Dagens Nyheter, the number of reported side effects are now a few hours later 190. 1 person dies after the injection but "no direct relation with the injection has been established". The biggest medical scandal in the history of Sweden has just started.

Even so, Annika Linde, director of The Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease Control (SMI) manages to spin this into something positive by stating "The vaccine has more side effects than the normal flu vaccine. It is a sign that proves that it gives an effective protection."

Thousands of Swedes have been vaccinated so far and the reports of side effects are "flooding in" to The Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease Control (SMI). Annika Linde: "It is obviously so that the vaccine against the swine flu results in more side effects than the normal flu vaccines. That is because the swine flu vaccine contains adjuvants, shark liver oil, which triggers the immune defense to respond. That also results in that the protection against the virus becomes better."

Several severe cases of allergic reactions are reported to the unit for medicinal safety. "So far the reported side effects are not unexpected", says Gunilla Sjölin Forsberg. This unit has now asked some of the many units that vaccinate to report side effects to better get a grip on the situation. This statement alone is shocking since according to normal practice, all side effects should automatically be reported - right?

A nurse who took the shot on wednesday last week is still feeling sick. She got high fever and shivers from the swine flu shot. "-I was shaking in my whole body. It was so sever that I could not even hold a glass of water in my hand.", Lotta Lindström says.

"- I am now thinking about what it is I have been injected with. I really was affected. It feels really unpleasant."

De blev sjuka av vaccinet - Hälsa - Expressen.se

Maria Strindlund is not so sure she made the right choice to tae the shot. She also got a severe fever and shivering reaction. "- Since I work as a nurse, I decided it was the best thing to do.", she says. At first she felt nothing from the vaccinaton, but a few hours later the side effects kicked in. "- I got a extreme pain in my arm. I could no longer lift it." The came the fever and the shivering. " _ I was lying in bed shivering and was feeling very cold and stood  in a hot shower to get warm." She says many colleguse who also took the vaccine have had similar reactons. She has been taking many vaccines in the past without any reactions whatsoever.

Maria, 27: "Fick fruktansvärt ont" - Hälsa - Expressen.se

Rebecka Andersson was the first person to get the shot in Sweden. She became feverish and felt sick to her stomach from the shot. " - I lost all energy", she says. "-I am normally never sick so I understood it must be the vaccine." Her class mates was vaccinated at the same time and she states that five out of nineteen also got sick from the swine flu vaccine.

Rebecka, 32: "Jag blev orkeslös" - Hälsa - Expressen.se

Lotta Lindström, a nurse, states that she got the shot a week ago and still is not well. "- It feels very worrying", she says. "- I did not sleep anything the night after the shot since the pain in my arm was so severe." The day after, at work, the fever came. She later had headaches. She still today, a week after the shot feels sick.

Lotta, 49: "Jag sov inte något på natten" - Hälsa - Expressen.se


Another nurse, Jennely, could hardly walk five meters after she got sick from the "swine flu" vaccination. She was completely healthy when she got the shot but the day after she had 39 degrees centigrade fever (102.2 F). "- I could hardly walk the five meters I had to the bathroom", she says. The fever lasted for three days. sevreal of her colugueges at work had similar experiences. "- I know of at least ten that got fever , we are about 80 people at my workplace."

Jennely, 26: "Orkade knappt gå fem meter" - Hälsa - Expressen.se

Johan Niklasson




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irina 2009-10-21 18:47:11

thanks for putting all reports together
great article
Lena 2009-10-21 19:38:16

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/vetenskap/190-tal-biverkningar-av-vaccinet-1. 979474
A death from the vaccine - heart attack) mentioned in DN.
MSc
Nikolaj 2009-10-21 20:11:37

Yes,
And it is even on the frontpage of todays paper:
http://www.expressen.se/1.1726665?articlePopup=true
saying "sick from the shot"

Anonymous 2009-10-21 20:16:29

poor Swedes
i wish not to sat 2009-10-22 00:11:49

SWINE FLU IS FAKE DO NOT I SAY DO NOT TAKE IT. THEY ARE KILLING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WANT THE POPULATION TO GO DOWN.
WHAT HAPPEN IN 1918 AND 1978???????
AND 9-11... INSIDE JOB?? KATRINA?? MANY PEOPLE SUDDLY DIEING??

2012????????????????
DO NOT TAKE IT TRUSSSST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im not faking it, google it!!!
Anonymous 2009-10-22 01:04:30

At work today (hospital) I overhead some nurses talking and one of them was saying she got both the swine flu nasal mist vaccine and the seasonal flu shot both at once yesterday and felt fine today. The other nurses were skeptical about taking it. Before leaving that nurses unit I went to one of the computers there and put this website up and left it up before leaving. :)
eileen 2009-10-22 01:18:39

And the medical establishment is claiming that giving people a vaccine that makes them ill is "proof it is working".

What they really mean it is proof it is working because it is making healthy people sick....so sick they need "need" hospitalization and more drugs/treatments....ie. more profits for manufacturers of such products. .. Let us say it how it is.
Dr. Bombay 2009-10-22 04:06:48

We thought the Swedes were smarter than this crap. I guess the dumbing down has reached there too.

911essentials.com features lots of good stuff about why vaccines have never been proven safe or effective.

Just say NO to the untested backroom brew they want to push on you.
Lady Person 2009-10-22 04:16:23

If you dont get the shot you probably wont get swine flu, but if you do get the shot you will have swine flu, then if you get the nasal mist you will be highly contagious for 20 days,

the absolute last persons on earth who should have this vaccine are medical people who should not be shedding flu on people who are sick, the world health organization declares it a pandemic, says you dont have to test people to have proof they actually have it,

then they say any flu like illness can be said to be swine flu then they put it up to level 6 which absolves vaccine makers of liability-

this is a scam that can kill you, then they put out numbers about how population is too high and also how men's sperm is low making men near sterile then they promote no kids to save the earth.

THEN GOVERNEMENTS BUY SHOTS WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND MAKE US TAKE THEM UNITED NATIONS GLOBAL GOVERNANCE European Union World health organization,

is the dictatorship of these people wanting to put chemicals in our bodies freedom, they grow the vaccines on cancer cells, everybody has cancer these days like they put cancer in candy or something, GOOGLE IT BEFORE THEY KILL GOOGLE

PLEASE TELL ME THE STUFF I WROTE IS NOT TRUE

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
find for me the lie
David 2009-10-22 05:00:02

Flu shots are a joke as are all vaccines. They do not work and never have. The whole "science" of vaccination is a load of crap.

This new "swine flu" vaccine was produced as a bio-weapon. It's a "weapon of mass destruction" that "W" Bush could actually find!

These vaccines are designed to turn the immune system into a weapon to destroy the body. They plant "seeds" of destruction that may take months or years to develop. It's like the Royal Guards killing the Queen.

Since vaccination was developed, thousands of "new" diseases have tormented the human race, many of them are autoimmune diseases that turn the body against itself.

The arrogant doctors tell us it's just "coincidence" if we get sick from a shot. These clowns are like priests mired in ancient dogma, believing what their superiors tell them to believe. If they don't play the game, they lose their lofty positions and million dollar incomes, stock portfolios, BMWs, country club memberships, professional organizations, etc.

Doctors brave enough to speak out and expose the dirty secrets of the medical profession are hunted down and "neutralized."

It cannot be proved that anyone ever avoided a disease because they got a "shot." In 57 years I've never had any of these shots, and I never get sick during "cold and flu season." I don't even know what it's like to have a "cold."

The drug companies are looking to grab 50-100 billion dollars from this "swine flu" scam. Do you honestly think those crooks care about the "public health?"







sjbucci 2009-10-22 07:13:58

This kind of comment is appalling! The fact that your shelf was not properly attached to the wall, is a sign of your own negligence- you killed your own cat! Being happy about Swedes falling ill due to this vaccine, blaming them for something you where actually responsible for shows your immaturity and your ignorance. Please refrain from posting these kinds of remarks.
son of god
jesus 2009-10-22 05:46:00

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA this is pay back for that Ikea book shelf that broke when my cat! jumped on it in the middle of the night!!!
TIMISDEAD
tim 2009-10-22 05:47:11

all we want to know is
WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM
Anonymous 2009-10-22 07:04:36


Which pharmaceutical's vaccine are they using in Sweden????
Medical News Consultant
Jim Barlucci 2009-10-22 07:29:09

I think you should know that Lotta, 49, has now died.
web master www.theflucase.com
Johan Niklasson 2009-10-22 08:02:43

Dear Jim

Could you please share a link or other point of reference to this information? If true, we really would like to know.

Best Regards
Johan Niklasson

Source?
GRiM 2009-10-22 10:03:41

"I think you should know that Lotta, 49, has now died."


Yes, I would also like a source on that if you would tell us it would be very appreciated!
Medical News Consultant
Jim Barlucci 2009-10-22 10:35:57

To Johan: The information on Lotta is from an Internet forum I uploaded while surfing the Net. It was a private posting. I can't vouch for it and am having trouble relocating it. Sorry.
YOU MUST WATCH Gary null Videos
Sharon UK 2009-10-22 12:00:17

Has anyone seen the GARY NULL VIDEO ON YOUTUBE. He says he will take the big pharmas to court he is very angry and wants to bring this GENOCIDE TO TRIAL.
He wants to stop this vaccine killing the people of the world.
Hes very courageous just like Jane. he gives lots of unheard Information in this HEARING

brilliant videos

The name of Video is
Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing | 10-13-2009 | (part 1 of 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o
1 OF 3


Happy go lucky 2009-10-23 19:59:24

The thumbs down are meant for Bob below you, people aren't doing it properly. Not like it matters anyway because we all know he is a BS troll.
seraph 2009-10-22 13:31:34

I'm a Swede, and I am not taking the shot! And I am talking to everyone I come across about the dangers of the vaccine!
Happy go lucky 2009-10-23 20:00:16

The thumbs down are meant for Bob below you, people aren't doing it properly. Not like it matters anyway because we all know he is a BS troll.
Bob 2009-10-22 13:54:53

You are all IDIOTS.

Of course some people can get a fever after a vaccine (any vaccine that is), its your immune system responding. Its temporary and then you are protected against the real thing.

Again, YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.
NhGh 2009-10-22 20:45:19

Bob , you have your head up your ass . You are talking to educated people . Calling people idiots will only convince dumb people like yourself to take the vaccine. Later fool.
Joe 2009-10-22 13:56:06

Do not take any shots....EVER...If they force you defend yourself at all cost....
Nate 2009-10-22 14:39:52

To all the people who call me a nut case for not taking the Jab and speaking out against it IT SERVES YOU RIGHT . Why bother warning the sheep about this , as far as I'm concerned they deserve to go to slaughter .
LAndersson 2009-10-22 15:27:01

From Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet COMMENT SECTION: Excellent link to Scientific research into the danger of Thimerosol.
http://sarnet.org/doc/Geier-mito.pdf

LAndersson 2009-10-22 15:56:54

I have been told that in Aftonbladet newpaper it is being reported that there is possibly a second death (autopsy pending)... anyone have info on this?
LAndersson 2009-10-22 16:05:40

Here is the link at Aftonbladet reporting 2nd death from vaccine:
aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article6001249.ab
Response to Bob 2009-10-22 13:54:53
Shaz 2009-10-22 17:34:26

If anyone an idiot its you believing thier crap WAKE UP!!
Mecury in a human body is just not a requirement unless you want to be like a zombie. idiot hmm
Don't call people "idiots" for wanting the trut
MK 2009-10-22 19:06:05

Bob,

Nobody on this forum is an idiot by any stretch of the imagination. If you took the shot like a good sheeple, cussing out other people won't fix your problem.

There is a ton of evidence that vaccines don't work and that they are part of a "population management" program run by scoundrels like the Rockefellers and other "eugenics" proponents. It is amusing that the most fervent worshippers of genetics have the most flawed DNA. The Hapsburgs had blood disorders, bone tumors and other inherited defects. Other blue bloods had porpheria, dementia and a host of metabolic disorders all stemming from their practice of "close marriage" and their worship of their own highly-defective bloodlines.

Those are the suicidal/genocidal types that want to run the earth and populate it with their approved genetics. They are the idiots not the people opposed to such schemes.

MK
Lena 2009-10-22 20:31:49

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1752585/tva-personer-avled-kort-efte r-vaccinering

A second person has died says Expressen. These are individuals who were advised to take the vaccine because of poor health. From what I can figure out it appears that already weak people can not tolerate the side effects from the vaccine. This second death, a man, died 2 short hours after (I think it said). People are, as you all know, told to take the vaccine if they have chronic health conditions. Let me add that the vaccination clinics echoed empty upon opening in Sweden, one local (to me)clinic had one single patient in 2 hours.
Mr
Bob 2009-10-22 20:39:57

Shaz wrote:
If anyone an idiot its you believing thier crap WAKE UP!!
Mecury in a human body is just not a requirement unless you want to be like a zombie. idiot hmm


There are reportedly 26 different known compounds of mercury,and researchers now suspect the ones found in fish are less toxic than the old variety.
Do you eat fish.
This problem of course is all down to pollution in our oceans, lakes, and rivers, but of course you would know that would'nt you,
We have a type of mercury in our systems because we eat fish, but dont think its ok to eat any fish with mercury. (It is not) mercury in any form is bad.
light Tuna is considered safer to eat, on average it has about 20mcg of mercury, while wild river Salmon has a content of about 1.6mcg of mercury, on the fish market, canned tuna,shrimp,pollock,Salmon,cod,catfish,
clams,flatfish,crabs,and scollops,are about the safest, containing less than
0.2ppm of Methylmercury, this is why there is traces of mercury in the human body, (Not Good)who knows what problems this causes.
Fish is very important to our diet, it is the main sourse of Omega 3.
Higher concentrations of mercury are in fish like Swordfish,King Mackerel,tilefish, sea-bass,and shark,all these are long lived predatory fish that concentrate mercury in there bodies through out there lives, through eating smaller fish that also contain mercury, but then again you no all that dont you.
You must be a sombie and did,nt know it, and how do you spell (Their).
Anonymous 2009-10-23 00:35:44

microchips are in vaccines.I have absolute credible inside info.
David 2009-10-23 02:48:02

"Anonymous 2009-10-23 00:35:44
microchips are in vaccines.I have absolute credible inside info."


No you don't. You are like hundreds of others who post such things. You want us to think you know something that we can't.

Don't hide behind "Anonymous." (I did it by mistake in my last attempt here.) Use a "real" fake name like the rest of us.

If you have this credible info, give it to us! Why say things and not back them up?

Your post means nothing.

re:
Tor Magnus 2009-10-23 08:05:37

NhGh wrote:
Bob , you have your head up your ass . You are talking to educated people . Calling people idiots will only convince dumb people like yourself to take the vaccine. Later fool.


To be honest you have to wonder...

The point of a vaccine is to trigger an immune response which will cause your body to fight the infection (which should be non-live in a vaccine) so that your immune system learns the appropriate response to the intrusion. This will sometimes cause fever and feeling of sickness, however it is unlikely to kill you unless you have a preexisting condition.
Knowledge
Anna§ 2009-10-23 09:51:27

Hi Tor Magnus

It seems you are new to this site. Here are more than 750 articles about the dangers of vaccines. I think your opinion will change when you have informed yourself like most of us have. Just use your common sense and intelligence and you will also be able to question the official story of vaccines.


re: preexisting condition
WHO WantsToKillYou 2009-10-23 09:54:18

Tor Magnus wrote:


To be honest you have to wonder...

The point of a vaccine is to trigger an immune response which will cause your body to fight the infection (which should be non-live in a vaccine) so that your immune system learns the appropriate response to the intrusion. This will sometimes cause fever and feeling of sickness, however it is unlikely to kill you unless you have a preexisting condition.


Since when has the natural transmission of viruses been via a needles direct to the bloodstream? How is the immune system supposed to figure out an appropriate response when you bypass the normal route of infection?

And when a vaccine takes a life, isn't so convenient that it can be brushed aside as persons own fault for having "preexisting condition". No need to look any further, don't blame the vaccine, just call it a "preexisting condition".
Double standards
conspiracytheoristswererightag 2009-10-23 13:04:42

Funny how when someone dies of swineflu with a pre-existing condition they died from swineflu - no question.

And if someone dies from the vaccine with a pre-existing condition they died from the pre-existing condition - no question.

And why is it ok to be injected with mercury because it's also in fish? Surely being directly injected with it is worse than eating it?

At least when you eat the fish you get mercury plus the mineral antioxidant selenium, which binds to mercury to turn it into something more harmless.

And why is it that only vaccines seem to be the only solution? Vaccines are called effective because they produce antibodies - but how many other substances do that safely including sunlight vitamin d3? Can't make money from promoting sunlight.
Side effects NOT normal
conspiracytheoristswererightag 2009-10-23 13:55:39

I just wanted to point out the argument that side effects are normal from flu shots.

I haven't heard any reports of side effects like this from Australia - where their vaccine does NOT contain "live" virus, mercury or squalene.
ms
hope 2009-10-23 14:51:41

I'm terribly shocked to see how the damage is being done by the vaccine/s. The side-effects of vaccines are much more hurting than helping. Would you not call it a systematic genocide? Pretending good and doing bad. It's a net work of pharmaceutical companies, isn't it. They want more and more money and their greed knows no end. In the name of humanity....they are actually killing us. Hope people from all over the world unite and charge the makers of this rubbish stuff and punish them severely.
Thanks,
Hope
Bob 2009-10-23 16:34:30

Bob here again,

The amount of nonsense being "postulated" on the science of vaccines, immunology and microbiology is appalling. I knew more on this subject when I was in high school than the combined ramblings of the individuals here.

Millions and millions of people get vaccinated every year, sure rare adverse reactions happen but if a vaccine is 99.9% effective and safe then 0.1% of millions mean what?
Im waiting for the geniuses on this board to use their math skills...actually, if your math skills are as good as your other science skills then I'll just do it for you)
That translates into thousands of exceptions worldwide that get used by statistically-deficient people to attack vaccines.

Sheep you call me? Hahaha! I'll follow a shepherd with a solid track record of protection than rely on my useless and inept ability of understanding things that are beyond me.

Ironically, everyone here has been vaccinated in their childhood (mandated by law, even in Swedish chef land) which allowed them not to die or develop disabilities due to polio, mumps, rubella, meningitis, hepatitis B. Probably not smallpox though...because vaccination ERADICATED it from the planet that now there's no need to get vaccinated for it. Thank god for vaccine and new research is working on vaccines for malaria, HIV, diarrheal diseases that are killing millions, especially in the developing world.

Keep drinking the KoolAid of Oh-Im-so-smart-Ive-gotten-it-all-figured-out-when-Im-really-an-imbecil e.

Sorry for calling peopl idiots, I couldn't find a better term to describe such people.
Rosicrucian Soap 2009-10-23 17:56:44

Sorry buddy, we are not buying it . Just follow the sheppard yourself and don't worry about the rest of us, we'll be fine . Remember , we're idiots , you'll never get through to us . You must be an idiot to think otherwise that you can get through to us. You quote some VERY vague statistics with nothing to back it up. If you gave us sources you know we would be able to knock your arguements down, so you don't . Bob , we all know you fail, give it up , take your poison and forget about us. AD HOMINEM back at you.
Comments on above link:
Martin Lauchenauer 2009-10-23 18:35:29

5 Responses to “Nurses Got Sick From the Swine Flu Vaccine in Sweden •
UPDATE - 190 Adverse Reactions 1 Suspected Death”
V.V. on October 23rd, 2009 12:30 am

I’m very sorry for these nurses and others who’ve gotten sick from the vaccine. I’m shocked and appalled that the vaccines used in Sweden contain squalene, as well as mercury. Squalene has been linked to the Gulf War Syndrome and is known to cause severe auto-immune disease in lab rats. This is not only irresponsible but criminal on the part of the government and the vaccine manufacturers!

[Reply]
Erwin Alber on October 23rd, 2009 8:40 am
It may sound callous, but the news from Sweden about numerous side-effects is good news as far as I am concerned, because the more people fall seriously ill or drop dead early in the piece, the sooner this dreadful farce of a vaccinaton programme may grind to a halt, before it causes damage on even a much more massive scale.
Let’s hope that he experience of these unfortunate Swedish guinea pigs will put an end to this nonsense not only in Sweden, but also in the rest of the world.


[Reply]
amicus curiae on October 23rd, 2009 8:46 am
I wonder What Brand?
our Incompetent friends at Baxter? the ones that confused LIVE H5N1 with seasonal vaccine in January? 72 kg of that mistake?? was shipped to many labs.
and did someone forget to tell these poor ladies that the CDC and WHO have said any deaths and unusual illness after a vaccination is just a coincidence?
See NYTimes for that stupid statement!
WHO has a PDF that mentions the uncertainty of oil in water/water in oil ie squalene! but doesn’t ban it! and it admits to Viral shedding from attenuated live vaccines being likely, but ok…in a declared pandemic!

[Reply]
Sandy L on October 23rd, 2009 9:25 am
Det kan bli mange som får alvorlige bivirkninger. Den offisielle godkjenningsinstansen EMEA oppgir at antallet er ukjent. Det samme sier produsenten. Norske helsemyndigheter oppgir 1 pr mill som kan få alvorlige bivirkninger, ev “svært sjeldent”, men de har ingen belegg for dette. Dette er en grunn til at produsenten nekter å ta ansvar for vaksinen.


[Reply]
Sandy L on October 23rd, 2009 9:30 am
Many may get serious side effects: The official approval institution EMEA states that the number is unknown. The vaccine manufacturer says the same. Norwegian health authorities state 1 per million or “extremely rare”, but they have no reason whatsoever to state this. The number who get serious side effects is not known to anyone, which is one reason why the manufacturer refuses to take responsibility for the vaccine.
[Reply]
Movie with subtitles about Swine Flue once showed
pawel 2009-10-23 21:05:01

two parts: switch on subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUXccBytXEc
second part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBEtBixdcd8
Anton 2009-10-23 21:46:07

My wife is doing her second year as a radiologist nurse. All students at her school as well as all those she works with during internship has had the vaccine. No one has fallen ill, more than the occassional rash or nausea due to having had not enough fluids before or after.

This will account for about 400 - 600 people having received the vaccine (a few weeks ago) and no deaths or severe illnesses.

On the other hand, walking across the street or being elderly and get pneumonia, there's your fatalitys.
RN
margie 2009-10-23 22:16:26

How do I get a short url to post on my twitter account?
Ms.
margie RN 2009-10-23 22:17:44

I need a short url to post on my twitter account. Can anybody help me?
RN
margie 2009-10-23 22:24:08

I figured it out. Thanks anyway. By the way, I do believe there are homeopathic remedies if you've been poisoned by a vaccine. As well, maybe a far infrared sauna? I saw something on Dr. Mercola's site. Hope this helps.
Bob 2009-10-24 00:39:19



What kind of source will placate you? A video of the vaccine manufacturing process? First you'll claim its doctored and second, you wouldnt know the difference between manufacturing of an M&M and a vaccine!

Sources? What, the statements on the websites of the WHO, CDC, American association of pediatrics and every other well respected medical association endorsing the vaccine not good enough for you??!!

Oh yes I forgot, theyre all in the pockets of the evil drug companies (the same drug companies who make medicines that EVERYONE on this message board has taken, including childhood vaccine-how's that for a source, YOU TOOK CHILDHOOD VACCINES!!!!!!!)

Here's a link from newsweek detailing all the nonsense rumors, enjoy reading and I look forward to a good laugh on the reasons not to believe a word of it:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/218513

Suckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Pain 2009-10-24 01:49:44

You have to give us a link to 'NEWSPEAK' ? Now I'm laughing.LOLOLOLOLOL. Remember , WE ARE IDIOTS ACCORDING TO YOU, SO WHY EVEN BOTHER TRYING TO CONVINCE US? You will never get through our thick skulls. Nice try though, but you will constantly fail. The best thing you could do is quit digging yourself a deeper hole , as your mouth writes cheques that your body can't cash. ROFLORL .
The Joker 2009-10-24 02:10:13

'NEWSPEAK' ? I wipe my ass with that rag . I can't believe people would believe anything in that mag and take it ALL to heart.
The Pandemic is the shot.
Frank 2009-10-24 01:57:50

The Pandemic is the shot.
re:
The Pain 2009-10-24 01:58:21

Bob wrote:


What kind of source will placate you? A video of the vaccine manufacturing process? First you'll claim its doctored..........


Actually , that's what you're here to do. Just take your gaddamn vaccine and leave everyone else alone as it is their right not to take the vaccine . They don't have to justify to YOU ! LATER!
c williams 2009-10-24 02:25:37

please read cuze
Anonymous 2009-10-24 06:22:39

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Wakiel Rettaghilla 2009-10-24 16:39:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04gaxcrVRxY

Dr Len Horowitz attacking a propaganda piece by ABC / Dr. Oz.
Anonymous 2009-10-24 17:21:56

Really good article
Chris 2009-10-25 06:27:53

The vaccines are just perfectly fine, I had mine 3 weeks ago because I have a comprimised immune system due to a neurological condition, I am very sensitive to chemical and develop allergys easily but nothing bad happened from the swine flue vaccine.

Even a simple cold lands me in hospital, so now I have one less thing to worry about after having the shot. Whatver is happening in Sweden does not apply to the rest of the world, maybe Sweden should be questioning their manufacturers of the vaccine.
Mass vaccination
Anna 2009-10-25 07:28:00

Hi Chris.

Most people will probably not get severe immediate reactions. The same was true for the over 100.000 soldiers who got the Gulf War Syndrome. The dangers with vaccines are the long term effects! To have lived through 3 weeks is not an indication of safety at all.

Did you know that just a few molecules of squalene is considered life threatening in lab studies (if injected). Don't recommend this deadly cocktail just because you did not get symptoms.
Bill 2009-10-25 06:40:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX14wnmbPJI&feature=player_embedded#

Check it out
Bill 2009-10-25 06:50:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHdmnTbH9Q

Check out too
mmmmmmmmmmm
6205 2009-10-25 11:14:23

Big question remains. What it greater evil. Greedy, corrupted bankers on Wall Street or pharmaceutical corporations creating new viruses and then save us with their vaccines..
Mouser 2009-10-25 11:21:33

Do not let yourself or your loved ones or friends take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. The advantages do NOT outweigh the risks.
Swedish family practicioner M.D.

Chris 2009-10-25 12:16:29

I'm sorry you guys feel so suspicious of the vaccine but I have no regrets whatsoever, I have been a prisoner in my house since the swine flue came out because of how easily it could kill people like me with medical problems. At the end of the day the benefits are far greater than the risks for people like me. Ever since I had the vaccine I can confidently get out of the house again.
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Anna 2009-10-25 12:21:43

The benefit for you staying at home is that you actually have the time to READ ALL THE ARTICLES HERE: Then come back and share your position on the vaccine!
Chris 2009-10-25 13:19:45

Anna I live in Australia in a city where the swine flue is one of the worst infected places in the world, it is even known as the capital swine flue of the world.

To make things worse I have a neurological disability known as "Autonomic Dysfunction" my body works differently than you healthy people, one "cold" last yea had me in hospital for 1 month fighting for my life with pneumonia, my family got the same cold as I did and they got over it in 2 days, that is how weak my immune system is...

Now the vaccine may have substances that can possibly cause complications but compared to the swine flue I was willing to take the risks, because the swine flue or any other flue is guranteed to kill me butthe vaccine isn't.

It was an easy choice. I read the ingredients of the swine flue vaccine we have in Australia, there was no dangerous subtances in it like the ones found in the swedish vaccine.

The Australian swine flue vaccines were created using eggs just like the seasonal flue shots, we were all given an information brochure along with the shot at by our doctors explaining the ingredients and the side effects.

If your healthy enough then dont take the vaccine, no one is forcing you guys but for some of us it is neccesary.
Flowers
Anna 2009-10-25 13:36:20

I will send flowers to you funeral.

You know absolutely NOTHING about the flu case do you?


Chris 2009-10-25 13:52:30

What do you exactly mean by "sending flowers to my funeral" ?


Chris 2009-10-25 14:30:52

....or was that just your way of avoiding having to answer the real facts that I presented ?
What facts?
Peter 2009-10-25 14:42:21

Burping propaganda is not facts man. Read up and then join the discussion, you are five chapters behind us here..

Take care dude...

Chris 2009-10-25 14:54:26

LOL, you think I even care about propaganda, conspiracys or the world affairs, thats sorta stuff is for healthy people like you to complain about.

For me there is only one thing I care about and that is managing a difficult disabilty I have and doing whatever is necessary to ensure my survival...that is my only motivation for dicussing my views!

For your information I had alreday read up on all of that same stiff before I had even come here.


Chris 2009-10-25 15:56:11

So I'm five chapters behind you here yet your name only appears once
through out this entire discussion ?

I think some people here are having issues with double identity.

You or Anna underestimate my intelligence, you are too arrogant to think so highly of yourself, you want me to play your stupid games and acknowledge that the flu was created by pharmaceutical company's and that the vaccine is poisonous or an attempt to kill of people and control world population blah blah etc etc...but you guys are the ones who are a few steps behind me because you both sadly failed to realize that I SIMPLY DONT GIVE A RATS ASS about all that going on behind the scenes !!

I am a realist!! I only care about the fact that whats happened has happened and I only care for taking the necessary precautions to avoid becoming another fatality due to my pre-existing medical condition...

If you want to go be a rebel fighter protesting about the conspiracy that is YOUR PROBLEM however just because I didn't tag along into your whinging and whining dosen't mean you should be so quick to assume I am not aware of the situation or that I am 5 chapters behind. It simply means that in my difficult life there is no room for it.

My survival is my priority. I weighed the odds and had the vaccine, and I am already considering having a second shot of mercury, squalene or any other poisons because I prefer that over the H1N1 any day.

ITS THAT SIMPLE!!
The vaccine is poison
Jonny P 2009-10-25 16:03:21

It's that simple, that is what they try to make you understand....

It does not help against anything, in fact you are more likely to get the swine flu after getting the vaccine (according to a Canadian study). Sorry, you have been lied to and you are misinformed.
Chris 2009-10-25 16:25:05

What do you mean "it does not help against anything?" then why are you even calling it a "vaccine"?

It may be poisonous but it is still effective againts the H1N1 or are you now claiming that it dosent even do that they are just fake duds ?

Because that would just contradict the fact that you just said that "the vaccine was able to cause the swine flu" obviously due to the H1N1 strain contained in the vials that someones gone to the effort of effort of putting in there which means the vaccine has the potential to be effective....

So what is it that I actually got lied about then ?



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FreeWill 2009-10-25 16:41:43

Chris wrote:
LOL, you think I even care about propaganda, conspiracys or the world affairs, thats sorta stuff is for healthy people like you to complain about.

For me there is only one thing I care about and that is managing a difficult disabilty I have and doing whatever is necessary to ensure my survival...that is my only motivation for dicussing my views!

For your information I had alreday read up on all of that same stiff before I had even come here.



Ok Chris here's the thing. I understand you, I understand that you have Autonomic Dysfunction and you think that getting the shot is better than risking getting infected by the flu. But the flu isn't really that dangerous, more ppl die each year from the regular flu than the swine flu.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The swine flu virus that has sparked fear and precautions worldwide appears to be no more dangerous than the regular flu virus that makes its rounds each year, U.S. officials said Monday.

This is just ONE of all the sources I have, so everything I'm saying isn't ONLY because of this source.

The vaccines in Australia may not be dangerous, but in my opinion taking a vaccine for a flu that isn't more dangerous than the regular flu, isn't worth it.

This is just my opinion, I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, it's your choise but I just felt I should get this info out. Please excuse my bad English :)

Peace
FreeWill 2009-10-25 16:46:59

Oh yeah btw, if you really want people to wake up, stop calling them idiots, sheeple etc. and start helping them waking up. Comments like:
"I will send flowers to your funeral.
You know absolutely NOTHING about the flu case do you?" isn't going to help in any way. If this person knows absolutely NOTHING about the flu case then get this information out to him/her.
Chris 2009-10-25 16:51:05

Hi Free Will,

I know that more people die from the regular flue every year, I dont deny that, that is why I also have a regular shot of seasonal flu vaccine every year as well. For me all bacteria and viruses are dangerous so this is not just about the N1H1....

But what Im trying to say is for most of us people who have weak immune systems we become very very sick from simple viruses, it has happened to me many times in the past.

I am trying to make people realise that the world is not all black and white, there are certain situations that require the vaccine no matter how harmful it can be.

Healthy people shouldnt even be having the vaccine, there is only a limited supply in some countries, if your healthy enough your immune system will overcome the N1H1 most likely, the vaccine is useful for people like me with pre-existing condition or the frail elderly and we apprecaite your concern for warning us and caring so much about our health but most of us become so badly effected by viruses that we choose the poison over the virus.

Your english is excellent by the way and your the only one who has actually understood me.

Chris 2009-10-25 16:58:46

Oh ye and thanks for sticking up for me Free Will, I also found anna's comments very rude and immature as well when she was telling me she will send me flowers to my funeral.

She is here peretending to care about people by opposing the vaccine and then she makes rude commnets like that, its hard to believe her intentions.
Bill 2009-10-25 17:41:37

It is your body and you have the final say , I support your right to take it even though I disagree with vaccines . You didn't deserve that rude comment either. I wish you health and good luck .
Bandwagon 2009-10-25 18:00:51

I have an old NHS leaflet (2006) advising care workers and nurses to the the (seasonal flu shot) and admits it contains mercury. It advises to get a version without mercury if possible, it will work just as well. Otherwise get the shot anyway.

FreeWill 2009-10-25 23:02:30

Ok Chris I understand. Like Bill said; I wish you health and good luck, take care!
:)
Your Own Anti-Viral...
Tony Lewis 2009-10-25 23:18:32

Hi All,
By coincidence, on tonights (Sunday) BBC1 Countryfile

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nks3x/Countryfile_25_10_2009/

Move slider so 46 minutes is indicated - that's the start of Elder-Berry Anti-Viral Syrup Demonstration!

It seems to be a lot more palatable than a partly-tested vaccine?

Here's to Your Successes!!! :-))
Very best regards,
Richard
Your Own Anti-Viral... Addendum
Tony Lewis 2009-10-25 23:27:46

Hi All,
Sorry, forgot to recommend clicking on the 'S' Button (which shows Sub-Titles) before
Playing the sequence - after I had done so I found that I had missed hearing some ingredients upon following the sub-titles!!! :-(

Here's to Your Successes!!! :-))
Very best regards,
Tony (NOT Richard as incorrectly-signed above)!!!
Bill 2009-10-26 16:52:41

It's official , Obama's kids are NOT getting the vaccine.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Sasha-Malia-Will-Not-Receive-the-Swine-Flu-Vac cine

Peter 2009-10-26 22:21:42

I have no problems if Adults choose to get any Vaccine.

I have a problem with kids getting it...period.

I have a problem if Governments or Business force all us who don't want it, to get it.

I have a problem with Big Pharma / Government & Media profiteering behind propaganda and lies.

If they showed all the truth, both positive and negative people could properly make up their own minds. But the last time there was any glimmer of truth in the media (freedom to show what they wanted to) was during the Vietnam war...and look what happened there! What a backlash. We cannot afford that to happen any longer can we?
Mass Genocide
Jimmy 2009-10-26 23:58:19

Whoever takes the VAX will be damaged, severely. I estimate 1=3 years until death. Sad.
Not All H1N1 Vaccines Are The Same
Lisa 2009-10-27 02:03:54

Every continent has different ingredients in the H1N1 vaccine...

- UNITED KINGDOM
vaccine contains thimerosal, live H1N1 and squalene adjuvants.

- CANADA
Made by Arepanrix® contains thimerosal, adjuvants and formaldehyde.

- AUSTRALIA
Made by Panvax® has thimerosal and H1N1 virus, but does not appear to contain adjuvants or formaldehyde.


Maybe Swedens was the worst and it looks like Australia has the safest Vaccine, so before you guys go claiming it will cause death you should consider the different manufacturers and ingredients.

Here is the link...

http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-ingredients-are-in-h1n1-s wine-flu.html





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Dear, I have informairuyu that at the forthcoming vaccination with the vaccine has a small effect it pabochny which arises from the fact that the vaccine contains nanochips dioxide and potassium, so I strongly recommend not to be vaccinated against swine influenza as it is more dangerous than the grip. And to protect against vaccinations, I recommend using the doors do not open them with respect, I,. I Cavo they are and at Cavo not something I recommend to place. And for all this you can thank their power which you have chosen the same, so the next presidential elections do not vote for rotseld macaque and vote for the white, as the macaque want you all to misery and Ariskaya Russ is Russ wants to save you.
angellllllllllllllllllllllllll 2009-10-27 14:51:42

Dear, I have informairuyu that at the forthcoming vaccination with the vaccine has a small effect it pabochny which arises from the fact that the vaccine contains nanochips dioxide and potassium, so I strongly recommend not to be vaccinated against swine influenza as it is more dangerous than the grip. And to protect against vaccinations, I recommend using the doors do not open them with respect, I,. I Cavo they are and at Cavo not something I recommend to place. And for all this you can thank their power which you have chosen the same, so the next presidential elections do not vote for rotseld macaque and vote for the white, as the macaque want you all to misery and Ariskaya Russ is Russ wants to save yo
Anonymous 2009-10-29 23:00:53

Cesarina asked about this.
re: Mass vaccination
chris 2009-10-30 05:30:11

Anna wrote:
Hi Chris.

Most people will probably not get severe immediate reactions. The same was true for the over 100.000 soldiers who got the Gulf War Syndrome. The dangers with vaccines are the long term effects! To have lived through 3 weeks is not an indication of safety at all.

Did you know that just a few molecules of squalene is considered life threatening in lab studies (if injected). Don't recommend this deadly cocktail just because you did not get symptoms.
.



You need to reeducate yourself about the ingredients in vaccines, and hey are all the same as any other vaccine just a different strand of virus is changed, not to mention there is no formaldyhyde in canada's shot who ever is spreading that is a fucking idiot,
Mary-Anne Thompson 2009-10-31 06:41:24

Yes, that is my experience too. I am a health professional in england. I had the swine flu vaccine and normal flu vaccine on Monday. i have the normal flu vaccine every year without any side effects at all. This time, i've had headaches, aches, even paranoia and panicky feelings, and i'm still feeling terrible today, 6 days later. I'm sure it's due to the swine flu vaccine. I don't think i'd have the vaccine again
Swine Flu vaccine loaded with mercury for one thin
Cosmo 2009-11-02 22:09:55

As like many vaccines, the swine flu vaccine is loaded with mercury. This vaccine has not been thouroghly tested as well. take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1_CUqkJ0uY&feature=pyv&ad=3966067696&k w=vaccination

Fish Has MORE Mercury than a vaccine.
Lisa 2009-11-04 06:43:34

After eating fish regularly a person can have twice the normal levels of mercury in their blood according to this article...

http://knowitallhealth.com/2009/01/12/mercury-rising-are-you-eating-to o-much-tuna/

But I don't hear anyone else here complaining and trying to stop people eating fish.. Some Japanese people eat sushi almost everyday yet you don't see them dropping dead like flies despite the fact that they have dangerous levels of mercury in their blood a lot higher than any vaccine!!! Read it for yourselves..

http://chetday.com/tunamercury.htm

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1A1-D8UD8T782.html

If that much mercury toxicity due to eating fish ain't going to kill you then neither is ONE single shot from a vaccine!
Adonai 2009-11-10 09:55:34

Instead of drinking a beer , try injecting it with a needle . I think you will get a different result (maybe even die).
HUH? WHAT?
Lisa 2009-11-10 11:10:35

Adonai your comments are a blatant attempt at a scare tactic however your comparisons between beer and a vaccine does not make any sense.

Why would you inject beer when you can drink it, but you cant drink a vaccine so therefore it has a higher purpose and a reason to be injected unlike beer.

Are you just trying to scare people or inform them ? Maybe you should try explaining which particular substances you don't agree with in a vaccine, because the ingredients vary greatly depending on the manufacturer.


simple
anna 2009-11-10 11:16:03

The propaganda claims that you don't get more mercury in the shot than from eating a tuna sandwich. The difference is of course that any substance passing through the digestive system is dealt with completely differently from those injected past all defences in the body. That is the point.
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