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Yushchenko called on to help Ukraine: Unknown virus is killing people

Publication time: 1 November 2009, 23:39

In last 24 hours, an unknown virus (presumed pneumonic plague) infected another 37 thousand and killed 12 more people. The authorities deny that this is pneumonic plague, and insist that people die from influenza, pneumonia and ARI.

Meanwhile, an emergency message from the President of Ukraine to the international community to immediately help in the fight against the virus, only reinforces the suspicion that pneumonia and influenza is not the cause.

"The current threat to national security of Ukraine, which we can not offset on our own, requires me to turn to our closest friends and strategic partners for emergency aid", - Yushchenko said in an appeal to the leaders of Belarus, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia Slovakia, USA, and EU Commission President and Secretary General of NATO.

According to the operative data of the Ministry of Health on 1 November, recorded through out the country more than 191 thousand patients with unknown disease of lungs. Of these, 83 thousand are children. Total number deaths recorded - 60, 123 people are dying.

Day before, on October 31, according to Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, 154 200 people fell ill, according to official data, 48 patients died, including two children.

Authorities officially called the disease "swine flu", "California flu", "SARS","pneumonia", but doctors say on the basis of clinical data and the rapidity of the epidemic, that it is pneumonic plague.

Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague by Russian terrorist organization, the FSB of Russia, using bacteriological weapons to destabilize the situation necessary for the armed aggression of Russia against Ukraine.

According to unofficial information, the death rate in Ukraine from the alleged pneumonic plague is higher than officially announced.

According to unofficial data, "in Ukraine over the past week about 1500 people have already died. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die within few days.

On the other hand, Ukrainian media reported that the virus is rapidly spreading in Ukraine and has already reached Odessa:

"1 woman died in the area of Odessa. Swine influenza has not been confirmed, most likely pneumonic plague was the cause.

Odessa and the region is already infected, most likely, is mutated pneumonic plague ", - said one of the doctors of private clinics in Odessa.

"The panic that spreads through the city, is so great that people are willing to sit at home even on just bread and water. Lack of gauze dressings in the city and surrounding areas - is just the beginning, and there is no elementary necessary ascorbic acid and inhalers.

Meanwhile, the first officially recorded death is because of pneumonic plague, and believe me in reality the are much more, "- says the Odessa physician.

All the doctors throughout Ukraine say that this is pneumonic plague.

"I have met with friends from the western Ukraine, the doctors say that the lungs of the dead were black. And that, perhaps this is not influenza but pneumonic plague. Well, if this is indeed a plague, then the news won't mention it for now, and certainly - it's 100% death (according to the U.S. for 1950-1994 - 41%, but the American health care, of course, not Ukrainian, and American doctors knew that they are dealing with a plague - KC).

With each passing day the picture becomes more and more dire, bloggers wrote and continued:

"The number of deaths is understated. The practice of health care service - to respond to anything after a really big problem. And "big" - far not 60 - as reported to the authorities at the moment.

All the actions talk about a really serious problem that the government is facing. The atmosphere in general - I recalled the early days of the Chernobyl accident - were the same "movement", and secrecy on the part of officials.

The regional center: converted the place to fit 200 beds, tripled the personnel of Precinct Therapeutic Services for special situation of contagious diseases (on materials of live broadcast 'Medchinovnika').

By nosocomial information - all the staff of one of the agencies was transferred to the barracks, in which there was a fatal outcome. (No one was allowed to go home at the end of the working day on Friday). Establishment is located not far away from the major microdistricts.

Traffic police from the western regions does not let transport to go to the east. People are running, it's terrible. Official comments: "information about checkpoints we do not confirm, but do not rule out such a course of action."

One of my friends in these minutes is going to Kiev by train. In our area - quarantine, in Kiev - not yet. The stewards not only wear masks but also disposable gloves - at all times. The clinical picture of what the virus is called Ukraine A H1N1 is same as the picture of pneumonic plague - the speed of hemorrhagic damage of lung tissue, on the absence of prodromal period, on hectic - up to 39-40 degrees - temperature.

- Information from Kiev says that it is not an epidemic of swine flu, but a previously unknown form of pneumonic plague. Doctors have been given the orders not to disclose this information. The figures are understated by tens of times, citizens inform.

Note that this summer in one of Chinese cities pneumonic plague was officially declared, and only 3 deaths reported. The city was quarantined. No further deaths were reported.

- All this is not known not only for the reason that the government forces not to disclose the information, carefully concealing the real situation and closes the zone where the epidemic erupted. The exact number of victims is much higher than shown by the statistics - everyone understands it. How many really died? If you take 152 thousand registered patients and only 52 deaths, even from ordinary flu more than 450 people would have died, according to the annual mortality statistics.

At the moment, in the disaster zone (Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Lutsk) receipts are taken of non-disclosure, doctors are not allowed to record the death with symptoms of pneumonic plague. Deaths are recorded as a result of heart attacks and other things.

The zones of "reanimation" increase. Departure from cordon is blocked. Photo, video filming the scene, contacts with the press - are not permitted under any pretext. Facts are checked, according to ordinary Ukrainians.

From Ternopil message: I am afraid - neighbor from above the floor died. I called my classmate - a doctor - she does not want to speak on this thing, but said that she was also scared. Perhaps we have some sort of mutated virus.

- I'm flying to Odessa this night. In Ukraine there is swine flu or pneumonic plague. They say that already died whether a thousand, or 1500 people, writes Corneliy Glas from Yerevan.

- A call on to mobile. On army channels - "Pneumonic plague. Ternopil region - 26 dead. Barracks rearranged into hospitals", said Eustas a resident of Ukraine.

Department of Monitoring,
Kavkaz Center

Original article

 

 

Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse

Publication time: 2 November 2009, 21:37

Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine".

The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza".

It is also required to distribute masks at health facilities with 8 levels of protection and anti-plague protection costumes. There is also an informal order not to allow any visitors to see the patients.

According to the "Fraza" agency, "today in Ukraine pneumonic plague is going in parallel with swine flu. The plague has killed over 60 people, and about 14 from the flu.

Meanwhile, the press service of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine reported that there is only one death from "California" virus A/N1N1 in Ukraine.

"In Ukraine there are 22 cases recorded of the virus A/N1N1 disease and there is only one fatal consequence as a result. All other cases of death from influenza has only a speculative attitude to "California" virus," press service reports.

The situation with the epidemic of influenza is a complex and unpredictable because of the propensity of influenza A/H1N1 virus to mutation, said First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets on Monday, November 2.

"The situation is complicated and unpredictable. We found a strain of this virus in our laboratory ... This virus is dangerous because it can mutate, and we can get a very different kind of virus, which was in Latin America or in Mexico, now it is European ", - said Lazoryshynets at a press conference, the "Correspondent" magazine informs.

At a press conference Lazoryshynets also said that there are 22  officially confirmed cases of influenza A/H1N1 in Ukraine.

First Vice Prime Minister Oleksandr Turchinov previously stated that as of Monday morning, November 2, there are 64 registered deaths in Ukraine from flu and acute respiratory viral infections.

Meantime, according to official information the highest level of epidemiological risk is declared in Ivano-Frankivsk (Stanislav) area, from 2 November. This decision was made by Ivano-Frankivsk Regional emergency epidemiological commission at the extended session on November 2.

In accordance with the Commission, quarantine will last for all educational institutions in the area until 20 November, a commission to monitor the distribution of medicines is also made, which come in the region as humanitarian aid.

The commission agreed that health workers will provide individual first aid kit. There will be extra transport allocated to visit patients by the district doctors.

According to the Ministry of Health, today in Ukraine there are 255 000 registered cases of influenza and SARS, of whom 15 000 were hospitalized.

Ministry of Transport and Communications of Ukraine introduced a permanent monitoring of the situation on a clear implementation of the planned anti-epidemic measures in public transport.

A special monitoring group studied the transport department on November 2, how the anti-epidemiological measures were applied at the Kiev railway station, central bus station of the capital and the International airport "Borispol".

Polish epidemiologists November 3 arrive in Ukraine for obtaining specimens from patients with the Ukrainians. The experts will arrive in Lviv, where it is supposed to take 190 samples.

Polish epidemiologists are expected to arrive in Ukraine on November 3 to obtain samples from patients. The experts will arrive in Lviv, where 190 samples are to be taken.

Lithuanian Foreign Ministry on November 2 recommended to the residents of Lithuania to refrain from unnecessary trips to the Ukraine.

Department of Monitoring,
Kavkaz Center

Original article



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Ukraine Testing Ground?
Freeone 2009-11-03 14:26:38

Could it be that the Ukraine is a testing ground in trying several lab spliced viruses and bacteria?
How? Why? Who?
Kaz 2009-11-03 14:49:00

Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist attack. Pneumonic plague is also spread by breathing in Y. pestis suspended in respiratory droplets from a person (or animal) with pneumonic plague. Becoming infected in this way usually requires direct and close contact with the ill person or animal.

Pneumonic plague may also occur if a person with bubonic or septicemic plague is untreated and the bacteria spread to the lungs.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/plague/factsheet.asp
games
Rockblock 2009-11-03 15:38:13

this is maybe more about the russian gas and the upcomming gas crisis, than the flu itself. Plus, there should be elections in Ukraine, so for someone it would be good to postpone them... because of flu. Games, games, games.
Anonymous 2009-11-03 15:57:51

It this is the suspected and deliberately released 'second wave' and there's a lot of evidence to believe it is, then if this goes global we are all dead! It does not then matter how much we protest, refuse the vaccine...it will not matter one jot.

The devil is alive and well and we are going to pay big time for all of humanities sins. Pray to God to deliver us from the devil's wrath and for his return, so that we can live in God's Kingdom and not on what has become an evil planet.

Marcus Stewart-Adams, LONDON, UK
msa_productions@hotmail.co.uk
No religion, please
Max 2009-11-03 17:43:48

"The devil is alive and well and we are going to pay big time for all of humanities sins. Pray to God to deliver us from the devil's wrath and for his return, so that we can live in God's Kingdom and not on what has become an evil planet."

The above is what is, unfortunately, becoming a typical type of quote on this otherwise excellent site. I've nothing against those who are religious, and respect your freedom to believe whatever you see fit to believe, but can we PLEASE leave the religion at the door and concentrate purely on the scientific facts? For instance, I believe in space aliens (and I do mean that) but I recognise it has no place in such a discussion. So can we all refrain from non fact based religious comments (which are, after all, purely a matter of faith) and deal purely with the events at hand as they unfold?
re: No religion, please
Chicago Girl 2009-11-03 18:18:34

Max wrote:
"The devil is alive and well and we are going to pay big time for all of humanities sins. Pray to God to deliver us from the devil's wrath and for his return, so that we can live in God's Kingdom and not on what has become an evil planet."

The above is what is, unfortunately, becoming a typical type of quote on this otherwise excellent site. I've nothing against those who are religious, and respect your freedom to believe whatever you see fit to believe, but can we PLEASE leave the religion at the door and concentrate purely on the scientific facts? For instance, I believe in space aliens (and I do mean that) but I recognise it has no place in such a discussion. So can we all refrain from non fact based religious comments (which are, after all, purely a matter of faith) and deal purely with the events at hand as they unfold?


Fair comment Max. I do tend to gloss over anything with religion as it's sub-text and may miss out on the odd nuggest of actual useful info as I am rolling my eyes. I do have beliefs also but don't want to taint an excellent website and put people off who may learn something from hear. I do feel it apt to say God/Alien/Giaia help us all if it does turn out to be Pneumonic Plague as obviously they agenda has been speeded up due to worldwide dissent over the vaccine.
Max 2009-11-03 18:46:26

Chicago Girl, I do agree that sometimes it's possible to throw the baby out with the bath water. And that's entirely because of such religious comments which do put certain people off-me included, if everyone hasn't already guessed! As for invoking God/Allah/Gaia in moments of stress or desperation I fully understand that. I should do as I've done it myself enough times. But to reiterate, let's keep discussions on this site at a provable, scientific level. The NWO wants us to wring our hands and run around like headless chickens, folks. The only way we're going to win out in the end is to keep our cool and to look at things in a cool and rational manner and not allow our emotions to overcome us. How do I know this? Simple! Because it took me many years to learn to look at things in a non emotional manner instead of jumping up and down and screaming bloody murder. Don't get me wrong; I'm no Zen master and I still get absolutely furious right to this day with what these creeps are trying to pull off but I also recognise (once I've cooled down!) that allowing emotion into the mix does not help.

Chicago Girl, let me say this about what is (allegedly) happening in the Ukraine: my advice is to take it with a truck load of salt. Not to say that what is being reported is not true but ask yourself this one question....who benefits from me believing this?

As an echo of the above, Chicago Girl and everyone else out there, I always do the following no matter what the story:

I ask myself who benefits and then I try to follow the money.

I'm not the sharpest chiesel in the tool box, folks, but please do read the above paragraph again because it really does work when you're trying to work out what's going on in the world, whether it be swine flu, anthropogenic climate change or human micro chips.

Finally and once again, it was not my intention to cause any offence to those who hold religious beliefs. If I have done so then please accept my apologies.
Andrew 2009-11-04 05:59:48

Well put, Max.

The key is to remain sane, and treat these psychopaths with the pity they deserve. Best to laugh at them as one does a tantrum-throwing 2 year old. And then lock them up for life for crimes against humanity.

They feed off fear and depression. Better to be filled with joy and laughter, which they find utterly indigestible. How sad and lonely these creatures must be that they feel the need to control and own everything. As if that were even possible!

The world is waking up, and the NWO has peaked. They are not nearly as clever as they think they are!
Have to MODULATE the Cytokine Storm
Anonymous 2009-11-03 20:08:09

Quoted-
"One of my friends in these minutes is going to Kiev by train. In our area - quarantine, in Kiev - not yet. The stewards not only wear masks but also disposable gloves - at all times. The clinical picture of what the virus is called Ukraine A H1N1 is same as the picture of pneumonic plague - the speed of hemorrhagic damage of lung tissue, on the absence of prodromal period, on hectic - up to 39-40 degrees - temperature."
Unquote.

The Cytokine Storm MUST be modulated, as I wrote previously. Failing that could lead to major over~inflammatory issues in the lungs and eventual lung-respiratory collapse. During the 1918 Spanish flu, the unmodulated cytokine storm was the main reason for so many deaths in a very short time window. Therefore it is critical to limit and control the cytokine storm within normal levels.
(I am even pondering if one could somehow maintain the patient's body temperature at a lower controlled level to limit the hemorrhagic damage in the lungs).
One needs to understand the dynamics present within the Swine Flu cycle. A computer model (sim) of the Swine Flu would be helpful. One can then input various scenarios and evaluate the outcomes. Just an idea.

Need to consider PREVENTION as Ist stage response, second stage would be ongoing 1st stage + TREATMENT (cytokine limiting, bacterial, viral and hydration support) and curative stage with fulltime prevention. One needs to know and plan exactly for each and every stage with alternate options. Certain natural medicines and a limited number of man made medicines in combo have to be considered. Please refer my previous posts on same. I believe in possibilities. One must be positive see the Swine Flu as a good challenge. Take care & God Bless.
This American 2009-11-03 20:27:47

Does anyone recall that back in 2004 Yushchenko was alledgedly poisoned in a possible murder attempt or perhaps a *warning* to him according to the Times.

Now the question is WHO'S puppet is he, and IF this is a biological attack on the population (interesting the planes said to be releasing aerosls on the day of *attack*?) what direction is it meant to drive the herd. It seems like this attack MAY be used to try and drive the Ukraine into Nato hands???

If so now WHO might want to do that???

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article400357.ece
W.H.O. ? Benefits?
Chicago Girl 2009-11-03 21:09:57

Thanks Max. I have taken pause for thought and realise that yes I had a reactionary view and not detached view. As I mentioned to ONE of the ANONYMOUS bloggers, I am new to this and would advocate all new seekers of truth to take a step away and consider the ramifications of your thoughts and the information. I am a mother and many times I translate worst case scenario to my own life but only by stepping back and taking a breath do I refocus and pause to take a broader view. I value this site and I value others opinions and I value the fact I can come here and take in this info when my resolve is weak and I wonder IF I should be a sheeple and get the vaccine for my family. I may have nothing to add but a mothers worry but it is only by coming here and watching speakers on YOUTUBE and listeing to Ian R Crane and the like that I can snap myself out of my sheeple mode and see a different agenda at work. Sorry I have no quotes or statistics ( I know that annoys you ANONYMOUS)or theories but if being a mother who previously vaccinated new to this and naive can make other parents pause for thought and reconsider a jab for their innocent child/children then that is my contribution.
puppet show 2009-11-03 21:20:36

In Ukraine the elections are coming up - and people have not been too happy with their current puppet...
Anonymous 2009-11-03 21:58:27

Max, yes, I'd agree on taking this with a huge grain of salt and have posted that on previous articles when I highlighted the actual % mortality (less than 1%). But when you say to question who benefits, are you saying this is all part of the fear-mongering for the "second wave" to get people to accept whatever the "solution" will be that will be proposed (more vaccines, medications, etc.)? If so, then this site would be part of the fear-mongering campaign.

The one microbe I would be wary of is ebola virus, but even then - when it's my time to go it's my time! The other day I watched "ebola" a PBS special - rented it from Netflix. Very interesting at the end when the blood transfusion actually saved 8 of the 9 people who got them, while the virus had a 80-90% mortality in those who did not get the transfusions, yet the CDC scientists insisted it could not be concluded that the transfusions were what made those people survive! Ha! I understand scientific thinking, but this one was just so obvious...
look before leap
wiley e 2009-11-04 06:03:46

All those who rely upon science as the sole reference point of credibility commit exactly that same offence against logic which they attribute to the religiously inclined. And manage to seem smug and condescending while doing it! Not a pretty picture.

Empirical science, the observation of natural phenomena has the capacity to guide towards understanding of ourselves and the world around us.
However, pure science was long ago hijacked by scientificism, which is a cultic blend of science and magic, most significantly developed by the school of Bacon, Dee, their Italian co-conspirators, and the later German imitators. Thus that which you give your allegiance to as sole compass point is a blend of occultic cabbalism and technocratic social engineering, blended with a veneer of empiric scientific method.

This false god and it's priesthood,(the Newton's, Franklins, Pasteurs and their present day ilk are all acolytes of Bacon's Novum Organum, a fascistic blueprint descriptive of exactly the kind of society we have confronting us today - an elite 'scientific' priestly caste imposing it's mandate on the populace by means of it's control over the state and each "estate."

If you seek the guidance of facts, in this troubling time, my friends, you are going to have to do a lot more digging, and less disparaging of those who might seek solace in 'elite disapproved' belief systems...yours are no different in essence, from the garlic wearer or the bible thumper, and who knows, are maybe even less efficacious.


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